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Old 02-05-2016, 07:00 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Historically critical thinking was not a strong suit of WASP males or females for that matter.


*LOL*
The better ivies are no longer dominated by a WASP population really. That said, elitism - definitely.
It's just that they aren't all white these days.
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Old 02-05-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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What is an ivy league graduate sitting around all day randomly attacking people on city data? I still don't believe you went to an ivy league. From what I heard, they make applicants go through certain assessments that determine whether they would be a good fit culturally, someone here correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:21 AM
 
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What is an ivy league graduate sitting around all day randomly attacking people on city data? I still don't believe you went to an ivy league. From what I heard, they make applicants go through certain assessments that determine whether they would be a good fit culturally, someone here correct me if I'm wrong. You most definitely would have failed at that.
There are no assessments that determine whether you would fit culturally.

You heard wrong.

You fill out an application, have your letters of recommendation, transcripts, standardized test scores sent, and you pay the application fee. And this admissions committee makes it's decision accordingly. The higher your GPA and the higher your standardized tests the better.

And low and behold Ivy League people have laptops and smartphones and go on the internet and do social media and random websites.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:51 AM
 
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Wow. I didn't know LA was like that too. I was under the impression that San Francisco was like such, no? I too want to check out LA soon. I know of a woman in my social circle. She is from Seattle with a generic degree. She had a 40k a year job and had a degree from a college in Washington state. Her roommates went to top college. One roommate even got fired and found a job a month later. This would have been difficult if one had an ordinary degree from a lower level tiered college. Any way, should could not hack it in NYC and left.


I would also like to add that 2008 recession cleaned out a lot of employees in the city who had lower level college degrees from their employers. Also employers pumped it up a bit and now asking candidates for credentials, a four year degree or higher, or even some a masters degree. Those days of going into the lobby and looking at the bulletin board for job opening are long gone my friend and are never coming back. I knew of a man that worked on Wall Street. He has a degree only from a community college, his position now requires someone that went to a top college or extensive background in financial services. Also Wall Street has changed in demographics. Wall Street a generation ago used to have more women and minorities, now its mostly made up of white men. I also read an article, even though its 2 years old about how hard it is for black people to get ahead even after the recession is long gone. The article takes place here in NY and these blacks folks were very professional folks. Had jobs such as corporate executives, sales men, actors and so forth.


As for suburbia? It will be alright especially suburbs of Austin, OKC, Houston Phoenix and such. Northeast I think their is a push to try to urbanize suburbs a bit so that young people can live there, as well as creating more office job parks. The future of suburbia will be those surrounded by a very small dense urban downtown. Sprawling cities with suburbs will be in trouble in the years ahead due to long commute times, taxes, cost of living. suburbs will struggle due to high costs of living and taxes. What saved suburbia as of recently is lower gas prices for cars. All of this puts pressure on nearby cities such as NYC, DC and SF which are just as expensive or more expensive as the outlying suburbs. Then you have to ask yourself, where are middle class people supposed to go if they cant afford city or suburb? THis is also only happening in liberal parts of the country. My biggest concern right now is the up coming industrial revolution which will bring A.I into the work force.


Transplants in my social circle that leave NYC really want to come back. I ask them "why"? THey said its something about it here that they like. I smh. I know a lot of transplants in my circle that I work with. I know what they go through.
Re: Suburbs I suppose it means what you mean by suburb. Urbanized suburbs like Jersey City will do well. It's dense, got good public transportation, and a lot of office buildings. You could live and work in Jersey City and never have to come into Manhattan. Jersey right across the Hudson from NY is well developed.

Long Islanders have to deal with long commutes even if they work on LI. That is an example of sprawl and that kind of suburb is busted and increasingly over.

Re: LA. The tech sector has expanded in LA big time, and has helped drive up the cost of real estate in a number of areas. So all the stuff you said about transplants coming to NYC is more or less the same for LA. People with generic degrees or backgrounds these days are fleeing LA for Arizona or Texas. The big schools out west are Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, and Cal Tech. The other UC's are well regarded in California. California State isn't well regarded.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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this is why i can't wait to get out of new york and live somewhere more enlightened so much rage and anger here across all races.

i bet this guy lives in the projects and therefore is protected from being pushed out anywhere.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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Re: Suburbs I suppose it means what you mean by suburb. Urbanized suburbs like Jersey City will do well. It's dense, got good public transportation, and a lot of office buildings. You could live and work in Jersey City and never have to come into Manhattan. Jersey right across the Hudson from NY is well developed.

Long Islanders have to deal with long commutes even if they work on LI. That is an example of sprawl and that kind of suburb is busted and increasingly over.

Re: LA. The tech sector has expanded in LA big time, and has helped drive up the cost of real estate in a number of areas. So all the stuff you said about transplants coming to NYC is more or less the same for LA. People with generic degrees or backgrounds these days are fleeing LA for Arizona or Texas. The big schools out west are Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, and Cal Tech. The other UC's are well regarded in California. California State isn't well regarded.
Jersey City is not a suburb. Nor is it an "urbanized suburb." I don't think you know what you're talking about.

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Old 02-06-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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It could definitely take generations more to even out disparities. Meanwhile the 1 percent thing is actually bogus and fake.

There's a huge difference in the living standards between a Black person like this guy who is probably from the housing projects, and a white person who grew up in a nice suburban district. The person from a well of suburb (or wealthy urban district) has a better education, access to better jobs and is likely to inherit family assets.

Very different from the poor Black person from the housing projects who has no family assets to inherit.

In fact the white person from the suburbs likely had a better k-12 educational experience and is much more likely to have finished high school than the poor Black person from the housing projects. The incarceration rates of poor Blacks from the housing projects are also very high.

So claiming that there is a 99% is completely utter nonsense.
i think you're probably right but i also think that the political establishment (not so much the 1%) has an interest in keeping the citizenry divided. unfortunately the man in the video has fallen victim to that demagoguery.
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Old 02-06-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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I think black people have come a long way. Everyday I am proud to see more and more blacks graduate from college and become hard working indivuals. Lets not act like White folks didnt have a HUGE!!! head start in this country when it comes to power wealth and education. There are plenty of companies in America that benefitted from the backs of black people. Blacks got nothing in return for it. Lets not forget the civil rights act isnt that old. I think its still sad that in 2016 we sre still saying the first black this and that.


http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/...fited-slavery/

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Old 02-06-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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You are so right here. I wanted to rep you but the system wouldn't let me. A transplant who comes here with a generic degree and no parental support is likely to have to leave the city soon. And as you noted they won't inherit money or real estate from parents, and they don't know how to exploit the government subsidies for housing. Therefore they need a masters degree from a top college or Ivy League (or a specific bachelor's degree like economics or computer science).

Los Angeles is the same way. I will probably go back out there (just vacationed there and am missing LA from the times I lived there before). But ultimately it is the same thing, to get decent jobs there you need to have graduated from a top school and you ideally need a masters degree (grad student now).

This is unlike the 80s where transplants could come to these big cities without legit plans and just get whatever jobs. Those days are permanently over.

Re: nothing will be done to save suburbia. The issue in these days people prefer to be closer to work and that's a factor in driving gentrification (along with government tax credits, low interest rates, and large sums of investment money flowing in from overseas).
This is not true at all.
A great job is not a pre-requisite to living in NYC.

I work with plenty of transplants who make in the 40's-60K's and live just fine. They're childless and have roommates or live with their significant other whom also has a job.

I think you have a very skewed view of the NYC job market. There are plenty of people with good-great jobs who did not graduate from top schools or have a grad degree.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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I think you have a very skewed view of the NYC job market. There are plenty of people with good-great jobs who did not graduate from top schools or have a grad degree.

That's because actual experience in a location is actually important.
That is to say beyond internet searches.

I know lots of said young people as well.
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