FBI Uniform Crime Report For New York...And Rest Of The Country.... (Kent: lawyers, law)
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Stop and frisk was ended because it was ruled unconstitutional...
Nope.
Terry v Ohio remains the law of the land, as it has been since 1968. "SQF" is a made up term used by the media/left to push the racial divide.
Any cop, any where within our borders can still make a stop based on reasonable suspicion. End of story. The reason they don't much anymore is because they smartened up. It is far more intelligent to respond to crimes after they happen than to deal with explaining your actions to a hostile public, legal system, and media machine.
Look to Chicago for an example of hands off policing. Quite frankly, I am extremely proud of those cops. They're showing the race baiters that only those with the ability to leverage force have any true say in this world, which in Chicago currently means the street thugs. Oh well. Lol
Terry v Ohio remains the law of the land, as it has been since 1968. "SQF" is a made up term used by the media/left to push the racial divide.
Any cop, any where within our borders can still make a stop based on reasonable suspicion. End of story. The reason they don't much anymore is because they smartened up. It is far more intelligent to respond to crimes after they happen than to deal with explaining your actions to a hostile public, legal system, and media machine.
Look to Chicago for an example of hands off policing. Quite frankly, I am extremely proud of those cops. They're showing the race baiters that only those with the ability to leverage force have any true say in this world, which in Chicago currently means the street thugs. Oh well. Lol
No. Reasonable suspicion is ill defined. Cops currently, per the federal court ruling can only stop people who have committed a crime or were in the process of committing a crime.
Example, a tranny who lives in my area looks like a hooker. It doesn't mean is a hooker as she walks down the street, and UNLESS the cops actively catch her doing something they cannot stop her for just walking down the street mind her own business.
Stop and Frisk, at least as NYC was implementing it, was STRUCK down by the federal courts.
Terry v Ohio remains the law of the land, as it has been since 1968. "SQF" is a made up term used by the media/left to push the racial divide.
Any cop, any where within our borders can still make a stop based on reasonable suspicion. End of story. The reason they don't much anymore is because they smartened up. It is far more intelligent to respond to crimes after they happen than to deal with explaining your actions to a hostile public, legal system, and media machine.
Look to Chicago for an example of hands off policing. Quite frankly, I am extremely proud of those cops. They're showing the race baiters that only those with the ability to leverage force have any true say in this world, which in Chicago currently means the street thugs. Oh well. Lol
Chicago is an example of how policing alone does not "clean" up a city. Chicago did not gentrify like NYC, and did not attract lots of immigration like NYC or LA, and so various socioeconomic forces contributed to the current disaster there.
Basically Chicago destroyed it's horribly crime ridden housing projects, and dumped those people in poor working class neighborhoods, which became the new ghettoes. This wave of violence isn't new to Chicago, I used to visit Chicago from the 80s and residents would tell you how horrible the "hood" there was.
No. Reasonable suspicion is ill defined. Cops currently, per the federal court ruling can only stop people who have committed a crime or were in the process of committing a crime.
Example, a tranny who lives in my area looks like a hooker. It doesn't mean is a hooker as she walks down the street, and UNLESS the cops actively catch her doing something they cannot stop her for just walking down the street mind her own business.
Stop and Frisk, at least as NYC was implementing it, was STRUCK down by the federal courts.
You're 100% wrong. Not like, "well different political sides see this differently"-wrong, but 100% always wrong.
Again, Terry v. Ohio is and always will be the law of the land, and any cop, anywhere in this country can still stop based on reasonable suspicion.
The biggest problem in policing today is that millions of uneducated, racialists push or believe the idea that cops cannot stop them legally, which leads to more resistance and more negative interactions than necessary.
Your little example does not establish reasonable suspicion and doesn't teach anyone anything. Read Terry v Ohio and you will find the definitions of each level of police interaction. Of course you probably won't do that because the BLM definitions are good enough for you (and millions of others).
As always, those who scream, "I know my rights!" the loudest tend to be those who know the least about them.
Still there was no reason to stop me to begin with.
How do you know?
There could have been a radio run that with a victim describing someone that looked like you but was holding something SPECIFIC in their hands. You showed the cop what you were holding, you didn't fit the description and they moved on.
I'm a Minority and have been stopped by cops a handful of times to be questioned. All those times I looked either suspicious. Like the time I was looking under the seats of my own car late at night for my phone charger, cops rolled up on me asked me for ID and Registration. I proved the car was mine and thanked them for keeping a look out for my car and neighborhood. Or another time where I was walking pretty fast cause I was running late getting home and happened to be coming from the direction of a location where someone was just assaulted "by a Hispanic male". Again I was stopped, ID'd and cleared in 2 minutes. Went on my way.
One thing I didn't do? Was cop an attitude and play "victim" each time I ran into a cop simply doing their job. Amazing how I never had a negative interaction with a cop based on my positive attitude and understanding of what they have to do to keep us safe.
You're 100% wrong. Not like, "well different political sides see this differently"-wrong, but 100% always wrong.
Again, Terry v. Ohio is and always will be the law of the land, and any cop, anywhere in this country can still stop based on reasonable suspicion.
The biggest problem in policing today is that millions of uneducated, racialists push or believe the idea that cops cannot stop them legally, which leads to more resistance and more negative interactions than necessary.
Your little example does not establish reasonable suspicion and doesn't teach anyone anything. Read Terry v Ohio and you will find the definitions of each level of police interaction. Of course you probably won't do that because the BLM definitions are good enough for you (and millions of others).
As always, those who scream, "I know my rights!" the loudest tend to be those who know the least about them.
NYC dropped the appeal of the ruling striking down NYC's stop and frisk as unconstitutional, so cops in NYC cannot stop someone just because of suspicion. NYC under de Blasio went along with the federal judge's ruling.
So no cop in NYC can stop just out of reasonable suspicion. A law has to be broken, or be in the process of being broken.
The federal courts clearly ruled against stop and frisk in NYC, and the city adhered to the ruling. The city and state also made it easier to individually SUE police officers.
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Again, Terry v. Ohio is and always will be the law of the land, and any cop, anywhere in this country can still stop based on reasonable suspicion. "
No lawyer or legal expert would ever make such a broad declaration. Nothing stop municipalities, states, or even the federal government passing additional laws on this matter, and nothing stops federal courts from making additional rulings on the matter.
As for your alleged respect law of the land, is that why you don't speak out under your real name like the BLM activists do? Or would you be fired from your job if you did? Which ironically make your politicized posts illegal.
There could have been a radio run that with a victim describing someone that looked like you but was holding something SPECIFIC in their hands. You showed the cop what you were holding, you didn't fit the description and they moved on.
I'm a Minority and have been stopped by cops a handful of times to be questioned. All those times I looked either suspicious. Like the time I was looking under the seats of my own car late at night for my phone charger, cops rolled up on me asked me for ID and Registration. I proved the car was mine and thanked them for keeping a look out for my car and neighborhood. Or another time where I was walking pretty fast cause I was running late getting home and happened to be coming from the direction of a location where someone was just assaulted "by a Hispanic male". Again I was stopped, ID'd and cleared in 2 minutes. Went on my way.
One thing I didn't do? Was cop an attitude and play "victim" each time I ran into a cop simply doing their job. Amazing how I never had a negative interaction with a cop based on my positive attitude and understanding of what they have to do to keep us safe.
Because he asked if I was smoking weed, and that in and of itself is ILLEGAL as well as INVASION of privacy rights. He did not see me with a joint in my hand, so even IF I was intoxicated on something, he did not see me do it in PUBLIC. Also what is looking "high"? Simply being tired or happy can make one appear to look "high". Medications can make one look "high".
Unlike you, I'm not a submissive punching bag who has absolutely no intention of trying to present myself as a "good" little boy to people like Airborneguy. Then again you may not be Hispanic, it's typical right wing strategy to try and deny a problem exists by claiming those who speak out against injustice are racists.
But had this happened to a white person, which obviously it's far less likely to happen to, I would still speak out against the invasion of privacy. And if someone of any race is stopped by the cops, you don't have to answer lots of questions. If you're actually going to be arrested, say you'll reserve speaking for speaking to your lawyer. If not there really isn't a need to speak to the police.
My Puerto Rican parents would be surprised if that were the case
So just because I follow instructions means I am submissive? No it means i'm well educated and my parents raised me to be respectful of authorities. I respect them, in turn they respect me. It's a two way street. I'ts never done me wrong.
People like you who automatically go into this "YO I KNOW THE LAW!" attitude set the tone for the police interaction and what follows is most likely your fault for setting that attitude, it automatically puts the cop on the offensive because he does not know you or know what you may be hiding. So by you throwing up that attitude it makes things more suspicious for him/her.
Just be an adult, produce ID, say "yes sir" "No Ma'am" and be on your way in short order. Nothing wrong with that and nothing submissive about it. It's about mutual respect and understanding, something that unfortunately is not taught nowadays to children, so they grow up to be idiots who "question everything".
Have a problem with a cop? It happens.
But the streets are not the court room, fighting or disrespecting a cop because you disagree with them on the streets 99% of the time will lead to a bad time for YOU not them.
Want to report them later or make your case in a court room? That's a better and more adult idea. Not the street.
In the street, be respectful and provide info requested. Fight it later.
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