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Old 01-15-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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I saw in the Social Explorer all of the census maps until 1990 of Canarsie, Brooklyn that it was mostly white.

However, in the 2000 census map, it suddenly became all black and only a few whites here and there. Now in the 2010 map, there is even less whites to the point there is almost none. Also the maps seems to show some Asian population in Canarsie.

Does anybody know if there was a certain time in the 1990s, when the white flight accelerated very quickly, or was it just slow demographic change?
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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Old 01-15-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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I saw in the Social Explorer all of the census maps until 1990 of Canarsie, Brooklyn that it was mostly white.

However, in the 2000 census map, it suddenly became all black and only a few whites here and there. Now in the 2010 map, there is even less whites to the point there is almost none. Also the maps seems to show some Asian population in Canarsie.

Does anybody know if there was a certain time in the 1990s, when the white flight accelerated very quickly, or was it just slow demographic change?

Google is your friend:


"During the 1990s, much of Canarsie's white population left for Staten Island, Long Island, Queens, and New Jersey, part of a national phenomenon referred to as "white flight" from the inner city to the suburbs.[SIZE=2][20][/SIZE] Today, Canarsie's population is mostly black due to significant West Indian immigration in the area. East Brooklyn Community High School now serves the transfer student population."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarsie,_Brooklyn




" Hard to believe that in 1990, Canarsie was 75 percent white. Within five years, longtime Italian and Jewish residents were leaving — though the neighborhood’s roots still show a bit."


Canarsie is still living the dream • The Brooklyn Paper


"Mr. Palmer found his house in Brooklyn near the border of Flatlands and Canarsie. It is a two-family house that he jumped at so fast he says the real estate broker thought he was crazy. There were just a handful of black families on the block back then. But within a few years, he recalled, most of the white people up and left.
''I guess they see black people coming,'' Mr. Palmer said, chuckling. ''And they run away from black people.''


THE CENSUS -- A Region of Enclaves: Canarsie, Brooklyn; 'For Sale' Signs Greet Newcomers - The New York Times


Worked with and or knew persons from Carnasie back in the 1990's, and yes, would say around 1995 or a bit earlier people started clearing out as Blacks moved in. That is once the area went from busted to tipped the acceleration of white flight picked up. In just five or so years later (2000) the place went from majority white to a hood.
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Old 01-15-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Another neighborhood turned into a ghetto slum
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Old 01-15-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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I wonder how much crime and corruption Manhattan had before white people stole it from the Indians?
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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i moved out of canarsie in 1975 when i got married .
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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Google is your friend:


"During the 1990s, much of Canarsie's white population left for Staten Island, Long Island, Queens, and New Jersey, part of a national phenomenon referred to as "white flight" from the inner city to the suburbs.[SIZE=2][20][/SIZE] Today, Canarsie's population is mostly black due to significant West Indian immigration in the area. East Brooklyn Community High School now serves the transfer student population."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarsie,_Brooklyn




" Hard to believe that in 1990, Canarsie was 75 percent white. Within five years, longtime Italian and Jewish residents were leaving — though the neighborhood’s roots still show a bit."


Canarsie is still living the dream • The Brooklyn Paper


"Mr. Palmer found his house in Brooklyn near the border of Flatlands and Canarsie. It is a two-family house that he jumped at so fast he says the real estate broker thought he was crazy. There were just a handful of black families on the block back then. But within a few years, he recalled, most of the white people up and left.
''I guess they see black people coming,'' Mr. Palmer said, chuckling. ''And they run away from black people.''


THE CENSUS -- A Region of Enclaves: Canarsie, Brooklyn; 'For Sale' Signs Greet Newcomers - The New York Times


Worked with and or knew persons from Carnasie back in the 1990's, and yes, would say around 1995 or a bit earlier people started clearing out as Blacks moved in. That is once the area went from busted to tipped the acceleration of white flight picked up. In just five or so years later (2000) the place went from majority white to a hood.
When was Canarsie considered to be "urban" though? It's rather far out from the "urban" neighborhoods, and looks suburban in some parts.

I found an article that touches upon this topic:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.704719

What I don't understand is why did the brokers choose Canarsie in the first place to force people out of their homes? This seems similar to what happened in parts of Southeast Queens.

Here's another one:

http://theweeklynabe.com/2012/05/03/...rsie-brooklyn/

It seems as if the proximity of Brownsville and East New York is what led to Canarsie turning and white flight. The main issue was whites had already left both areas and feared that Canarsie would turn into another ghetto, especially once minorities were bused into schools in the area.

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Old 01-15-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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When was Canarsie considered to be "urban" though? It's rather far out from the "urban" neighborhoods, and looks suburban in some parts.

I found an article that touches upon this topic:

CANARSIE FIGHTS DOSE OF REALTY - NY Daily News

What I don't understand is why did the brokers choose Canarsie in the first place to force people out of their homes? This seems similar to what happened in parts of Southeast Queens.

Here's another one:

From resort nights to white flight: a brief history of Canarsie | The Weekly Nabe

It seems as if the proximity of Brownsville and East New York is what led to Canarsie turning and white flight. The main issue was whites had already left both areas and feared that Canarsie would turn into another ghetto, especially once minorities were bused into schools in the area.
Canarsie's Long-Held Racial Anxieties Resurface - NYTimes.com


From resort nights to white flight: a brief history of Canarsie | The Weekly Nabe


Canarsie: Canarsie, New York NY 11236: Brooklyn Neighborhood - Connect With Friends + Businesses


And so it goes.


As you yourself noted much of Carnasie was inhabited by those (or their children) who moved out of ENY and other areas for racial reasons. Thus already you had a heightened sense of tension to change.


Fast forward to the 1990's RE agents saw a gold mine as more and more blacks moved in prompting whites to move out.


For the record same thing has happened and continues to happen all over NYC. Areas of Staten Island are a perfect case in point, in particular the North, West and East Shore areas.


Areas of Staten Island such as Saint George, West Brighton, Port Richmond, Elm Park, Mariners Harbor, Tompkinsville, etc.... late as the 1980's were still largely white. You had some black enclaves but they were small. Gradually as blacks moved onto other blocks/areas whites fled, so by the 2000's areas are now mostly minority (black and or Latino/Hispanic).


In West Brighton the "hood" area was roughly from Alaska Street on the west to North Burgher in the east and from Broadway to the south and Richmond Terrace to the north. This was around the 1970's and afterwards as prior the area like the rest of SI was largely white. Two housing projects in the area (West Brighton and Markham) started to go down hill and took the area with them.


Now the "hood" part of West Brighton includes Elm Street, parts of Bement Avenue and is rapidly working over towards Davis Avenue. Always the same thing, whites left as minorities move in, which causes more whites to leave. It isn't helping that developers snap up those old homes on large lots that whites sell and build multi-family townhouses.


You can read stories about "old" Carnasie here:


My Brooklyn (114)
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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I grew up in Bergen Beach across the basin from Canarsie. Soon enough Bergen Beach won't be all white as well. There won't be enough white in NYC who want to live in Bergen Beach. It's not a bad thing, it's just how things go.

Pardegat Basin is actually a very affluent Black neighborhood. There's a heavy concentration of dual income MTA, City, and nursing employees. Median household income rivals that of Bergen Beach in the low $80K's.

It's an ebb and flow. Neighborhoods that were once largely non-white are turning increasingly white. So whoa re white people to complain.
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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I grew up in Bergen Beach across the basin from Canarsie. Soon enough Bergen Beach won't be all white as well. There won't be enough white in NYC who want to live in Bergen Beach. It's not a bad thing, it's just how things go.

Pardegat Basin is actually a very affluent Black neighborhood. There's a heavy concentration of dual income MTA, City, and nursing employees. Median household income rivals that of Bergen Beach in the low $80K's.

It's an ebb and flow. Neighborhoods that were once largely non-white are turning increasingly white. So whoa re white people to complain.

Former Paerdegat Basin guy remembers his old area:


Growing up in Paerdegat Basin – a personal account | The Weekly Nabe
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