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Old 02-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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People are still driving even with the low fares. I think raising the fares as high as some are calling for would mean even more congestion.
And the rest of us will laugh as they're stuck in traffic for hours as we zoom in a less crowded space underground. I don't own a car and rely on transit every day. Raise the fares! I rather pay for better service and to be self sufficient than beg for crappy.
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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To be honest, I've kind of given up on fighting these fare hikes. I've kind of just resolved myself to earning enough or spending differently to adjust to the hikes. :\
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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And the rest of us will laugh as they're stuck in traffic for hours as we zoom in a less crowded space underground. I don't own a car and rely on transit every day. Raise the fares! I rather pay for better service and to be self sufficient than beg for crappy.
I think many people think the same. Some of those who can afford increased fares may be okay with it if there ends up being less crowding. Obviously, those who can't will oppose it.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:51 PM
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Actually, it's the transit riders who are doing the pocket picking. They're getting a ride a well below the cost of that ride being provided.

The MTA should just bite the bullet and raise fares so that they cover at least 100% of operating costs, and at least some of the capital costs.
Has the MTA done anything to moderate costs, improve efficiency, get better value for each dollar? Are labor costs rising unchecked? If you raise prices to cover 100% now how long till their in the same boat again?
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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I'd pay an extra dollar per swipe if the there was a cop on every car who would instantly arrest anyone who ****s or pisses on the floor or tries to scam people out of money with some fake sob story
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:39 PM
 
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Having to charge what it costs to run the system would put more pressure on them to at least try to push costs down.

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Has the MTA done anything to moderate costs, improve efficiency, get better value for each dollar? Are labor costs rising unchecked? If you raise prices to cover 100% now how long till their in the same boat again?
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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Given the fact that the system is running at or over capacity at peak times, there is no need to give people incentives to use the system. In point of fact, there's really no alternative to using the system. Given traffic and parking costs, no one is going to trade transit for driving, even at higher fares. What will happen is that people who can't afford it will be squeezed out of the city. This would be a good thing.
I know people who bicycle from Brooklyn to Manhattan to work. Depending on how far away you are, there's walking.

I always use Uber or Lyft when going to airports, and for trips that are time sensitive. And there are people that always drive. In short there are plenty of alternatives, how viable they are depends on how far you are away from work/school and where you want to live.
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