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It has little to do with the amount of illegals here today.
But it is important that everyone on US soil is protected by the Constitution.
Indeed. the 14th amendment ended slavery by declaring everyone born on US soil an US citizen. That way it would be impossible to create a lesser class of people born in the US and possibly living here for generations, all due to the ancestry of their families).
It is important that everyone on the soil be protected by the constitution. Just because an undocumented immigrant is accused of a crime does not mean they committed the crime. They still need to go to court and they still need legal representation.
Even when undocumented are busted by ICE, they don't just put them on an airplane or a ship! They still go to court, and can argue their case!
Indeed. the 14th amendment ended slavery by declaring everyone born on US soil an US citizen. That way it would be impossible to create a lesser class of people born in the US and possibly living here for generations, all due to the ancestry of their families).
It is important that everyone on the soil be protected by the constitution. Just because an undocumented immigrant is accused of a crime does not mean they committed the crime. They still need to go to court and they still need legal representation.
Even when undocumented are busted by ICE, they don't just put them on an airplane or a ship! They still go to court, and can argue their case!
That's precisely the problem. We need a system that sends these people back to their countries of origin. Let their own countries take care of them the way they're supposed to. This illegal immigration problem is a battle for all Westernized countries. The same nonsense is occurring in Western Europe with the illegals flooding the continent from Africa. These people come thinking that there are tons of jobs here. We can't even take care of our citizens (here and in Europe). People think it's cruel, but we simply can't support every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants to step foot on American soil. It's unsustainable. I'd like to know where this $23 million is coming from when we have a homeless crisis? Melissa Mark-Viverito should be ashamed of herself, but then again she represents large immigrant communities so of course she is going to pander to them.
Nicole Malliotakis (a Cuban and Greek American politician who comes from an immigrant background) said it best:
“It’s almost as if the City Council is more interested in protecting illegal immigrants than the safety of the very citizens they represent,” commented Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis last year, after she joined several lawmakers in Albany to require New York law enforcement to cooperate with ICE.
Actually it is. It's a great example of how broken our laws are when it comes to illegal immigration. If we had an aggressive illegal immigration policy that deported these people and ensured that they didn't return (which is often the case - have heard of numerous instances of illegal immigrants being deported and coming right back into the US AGAIN illegally), they wouldn't keep coming back. That decision made by the Supreme Court should be appealed and repealed. I mean seriously, go to another country and enter illegally and see what "rights" you have. I'm so sick of this nonsense of catering to people here illegally who have no respect for our laws and make every excuse as why they're entitled to break them and then stay here on top of it and get other goodies. It's absurd.
The point is that everyone is treated fairly by the legal system. I'm not saying that any extra funding should be allocated towards illegal immigrants, just that everyone is treated fairly by the legal system.
Indeed. the 14th amendment ended slavery by declaring everyone born on US soil an US citizen. That way it would be impossible to create a lesser class of people born in the US and possibly living here for generations, all due to the ancestry of their families).
It is important that everyone on the soil be protected by the constitution. Just because an undocumented immigrant is accused of a crime does not mean they committed the crime. They still need to go to court and they still need legal representation.
Even when undocumented are busted by ICE, they don't just put them on an airplane or a ship! They still go to court, and can argue their case!
That's precisely the problem. We need a system that sends these people back to their countries of origin. Let their own countries take care of them the way they're supposed to. This illegal immigration problem is a battle for all Westernized countries. The same nonsense is occurring in Western Europe with the illegals flooding the continent from Africa. These people come thinking that there are tons of jobs here. We can't even take care of our citizens (here and in Europe). People think it's cruel, but we simply can't support every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants to step foot on American soil. It's unsustainable. I'd like to know where this $23 million is coming from when we have a homeless crisis? Melissa Mark-Viverito should be ashamed of herself, but then again she represents large immigrant communities so of course she is going to pander to them.
Nicole Malliotakis (a Cuban and Greek American politician who comes from an immigrant background) said it best:
“It’s almost as if the City Council is more interested in protecting illegal immigrants than the safety of the very citizens they represent,†commented Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis last year, after she joined several lawmakers in Albany to require New York law enforcement to cooperate with ICE.
Illegal immigrants don't need to be "taken care of". They bust their asses and have their own dwellings even if it means sharing an apartment with several people.
The point is that everyone is treated fairly by the legal system. I'm not saying that any extra funding should be allocated towards illegal immigrants, just that everyone is treated fairly by the legal system.
Yeah, so that's even more of a reason to build that wall and strengthen our borders. You come here illegally, you get your day in court, and when you're deported for entering illegally, you don't come back! I like it, but don't you dare say anything that goes against people entering our country illegally and breaking our laws. We must give them everything while they do nothing but take in return. Sounds like they get better legal representation than actual citizens. Imagine that!
Illegal immigrants don't need to be "taken care of". They bust their asses and have their own dwellings even if it means sharing an apartment with several people.
Well if they're busting their asses, let them do so legally in their own country and stop breaking our laws and coming here illegally. I'm not going to overlook that fact that you and others seem to completely dismiss. We have laws here and these people need to respect them, but you won't address that you now will you? It's that simple. I don't go to other people's countries and break their laws, so what makes it okay for these people to disrespect our laws? We have plenty of people coming here LEGALLY and busting their asses too. Those are the people that should be commended. They abide by our laws and show respect for our country. Once you come illegally, I really don't care what you do since you've already broken one of our core laws!
Yeah, so that's even more of a reason to build that wall and strengthen our borders. You come here illegally, you get your day in court, and when you're deported for entering illegally, you don't come back! I like it, but don't you dare say anything that goes against people entering our country illegally and breaking our laws. We must give them everything while they do nothing but take in return. Sounds like they get better legal representation than actual citizens. Imagine that!
Keep in mind that when they go to immigration court, the judge has some ability to choose who gets deported. They consider multiple factors in determining whether to actually deport someone or not. So does ICE. ICE will go after violent criminals, but if someone is just living their life and working, they are a low priority for ICE because it costs money to after someone and arrest them, and more money to put them on trial.
Well if they're busting their asses, let them do so legally in their own country and stop breaking our laws and coming here illegally. I'm not going to overlook that fact that you and others seem to completely dismiss. We have laws here and these people need to respect them, but you won't address that you now will you? It's that simple. I don't go to other people's countries and break their laws, so what makes it okay for these people to disrespect our laws? We have plenty of people coming here LEGALLY and busting their asses too. Those are the people that should be commended. They abide by our laws and show respect for our country. Once you come illegally, I really don't care what you do since you've already broken one of our core laws!
I thought conservatives believe in limited government. Well if you believe in limited government people should be able to live where they want to live.
There was really no such thing as illegal immigrants until the 80s. Reagan gave millions of immigrants amnesty, but in exchange for the first time companies were supposed to verify the legal status of their employees.
With that said, that's really we we have illegal immigrants. Someone is paying them to do those jobs, and as long as employers are willing to pay people in cash and under the table (and someone is always going to be willing to do this) there will always be undocumented immigrants.
At best all you can do is control the situation.
The tough Republican talk of cracking down on crime hasn't gotten rid of drugs, and it cannot. It cannot control illegal immigration either.
Immigration can be reduced to the US has conditions in the countries where they come from improve. One reason why immigrants come to the US from Latin America was to flee violence from the drug wars. The US pushing for drugs to be illegal has caused massive violence throughout the Americas, fortunately it is ended as nations like Colombia have made peace with rebels and with cartels, they have economic growth and fewer people come here.
Keep in mind that when they go to immigration court, the judge has some ability to choose who gets deported. They consider multiple factors in determining whether to actually deport someone or not. So does ICE. ICE will go after violent criminals, but if someone is just living their life and working, they are a low priority for ICE because it costs money to after someone and arrest them, and more money to put them on trial.
That's even more of a reason to ensure that those who are deported don't re-enter again. It's a big issue that has to be mitigated, especially from a cost standpoint. If you look at how much is spent on these people, plus the $23 million the city council wants to allocate, that money could be spent on citizens addressing things like homelessness. It's not as if our own citizens don't have crises to deal with. I think this is a huge mistake and one that politicians like Malliotakis should stand up against and vote NO on. Here's a woman whose parents were both immigrants and understands why this makes absolutely no sense. Take that 23 million and spend on our schools for our children! I can think of a million other things that this should go towards than supporting undocumented people.
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I like it, but don't you dare say anything that goes against people entering our country illegally and breaking our laws. We must give them everything while they do nothing but take in return. Sounds like they get better legal representation than actual citizens. Imagine that!
