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Old 08-28-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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Atlanta is getting a lot of transplant, particularly black, and that includes Caribbean New Yorkers. Florida will continue to be the number one destination for Caribbean immigrants. New York's COL is just too high.
crazy thing is a lot of people are running to ATL to get away from the congestion and expenses of New York and soon Atlanta will become more like New York, I am sure the cost of living will go up and quality of life will drop in Atlanta.
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Old 08-28-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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crazy thing is a lot of people are running to ATL to get away from the congestion and expenses of New York and soon Atlanta will become more like New York, I am sure the cost of living will go up and quality of life will drop in Atlanta.
Yes, but the difference is Atlanta is in no danger of becoming as expensive as NYC. Have seen what one can get down there and it's crazy. Not only that but Atlanta is like the black mecca. Far more opportunities for blacks of all kinds down there versus here. NYC has become more expensive but also more hostile towards blacks in a number of ways. West Indians historically work in things like nursing and as home attendants, and some of those positions simply don't pay enough for the expenses of NYC.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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the biggest immigrant groups from the Caribbean to New York are Dominicans and Guyanese. It seems that all other groups are moving to the south (Jamaicans to South and Central Florida, Jamaican Americans to Atlanta by way of New York or South Florida, Cubans to Florida and Texas, Puerto Ricans to Florida and Texas, Trinidadians to Florida and Maryland, etc.)

I'm not sure of the migration patterns of Haitians though we all know Florida is the number one destination; i do know that many are going to Canada now
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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the biggest immigrant groups from the Caribbean to New York are Dominicans and Guyanese. It seems that all other groups are moving to the south (Jamaicans to South and Central Florida, Jamaican Americans to Atlanta by way of New York or South Florida, Cubans to Florida and Texas, Puerto Ricans to Florida and Texas, Trinidadians to Florida and Maryland, etc.)

I'm not sure of the migration patterns of Haitians though we all know Florida is the number one destination; i do know that many are going to Canada now
Flatbush is majority Haitian. a lot of new Haitian restaurants are all over Brooklyn now. They have a much stronger presence in New York now. I think the Haitian population will eventually outnumber Jamaicans in Brooklyn if it already hasn't.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:43 PM
 
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Flatbush is majority Haitian. a lot of new Haitian restaurants are all over Brooklyn now. They have a much stronger presence in New York now. I think the Haitian population will eventually outnumber Jamaicans in Brooklyn if it already hasn't.
I'm very sure it has already.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:01 PM
 
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I think the West Indian population may be shrinking compared to its peak and for several reasons

There are not enough new west Indians coming like in the older years because of the economy and more stringent regulations on immigrants.

NYC is just so costly to rent and COL is so high that a lot of them are moving to Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Atlanta where they can afford to own a home etc

The longer many black west Indians stay in NYC they just merge into the African American grouping.

The younger Caribbean people who come here for college or whatever don't seek to live in Caribbean enclaves in Brooklyn or Queens so they disperse and move to other areas.

I suspect that soon we wont find Caribbean enclaves in NYC if COL continue to rise and gentrification continues.

You even see it in the Caribbean parade on labor day, its not even authentic as the older folks who kept it going either died, too old or moved back home or moved elsewhere.
I know of a Dominican family who moved to Atlanta and opened up an hair salon that is mainly serves an African American clientele. Also I remember listening to an excerpt from the 2010 census where a Jamaican woman who moved to Atlanta, WNYC asked if Caribbean people follow the same path as African Americans to move down south instead of remaining in the North?

The question is, why will the Caribbean migration decline? With the rise of populism in America from the let Berncrats, and Trumpettes, such populism tends to target immigration. Neoliberal politicians such as the Regaenists, Bushes, Clintonians and Obama's were strong champion of immigration, and immigration means more votes for either Republican or Democrat parties. Recent elections may have turned some on not to immigrate to the US. Another big thing is economics. Some parts of the Caribbean is not that poor as initially thought. Barbados for example about 2 Bajan dollars for 1 US dollar. Trinidad and Tobago has one of the highest PPP and HDI for all the Caribbean, and Dominican Republic makes the most money, China just built an expressway that cuts through Jamaica. The big problem for the Caribbean as a whole is Cuba and Haiti which remain in extreme poverty.

As for Guyana? Guyana is quasi South AMerican/Caribbean West Indian thing. Guyana is also part of South American and Caribbean trading blocs and has yet to pick a regional destiny at the moment besides Caricom common market which does not work for the country. Guyana just recently struck oil totaling 50 billion dollars worth, and at the same time voted out a Pro Cuban/Pro Venezuelan Socialist Marxist party known as the PPP which was racially Asian Indian, and voted in an Pro American leaning Unity Party. With improved economics, less and less Caribbean people will move to NYC.. Florida will be the number destination for Caribbean people in the foreseeable future.

As for people running to ATL? ATL needs to expand public transport, ATL roads are already congested. ATL boom years are over. Millions of black Americans from the North moved down there in the past decade. I'm not sure if more black people from the North or West will relocate to the black belt of America with its capital centered in Atlanta? Generally speaking some Caribbean blacks do not see eye to eye with African Americans. But who knows, anything is possible.
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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I know of a Dominican family who moved to Atlanta and opened up an hair salon that is mainly serves an African American clientele. Also I remember listening to an excerpt from the 2010 census where a Jamaican woman who moved to Atlanta, WNYC asked if Caribbean people follow the same path as African Americans to move down south instead of remaining in the North?

The question is, why will the Caribbean migration decline? With the rise of populism in America from the let Berncrats, and Trumpettes, such populism tends to target immigration. Neoliberal politicians such as the Regaenists, Bushes, Clintonians and Obama's were strong champion of immigration, and immigration means more votes for either Republican or Democrat parties. Recent elections may have turned some on not to immigrate to the US. Another big thing is economics. Some parts of the Caribbean is not that poor as initially thought. Barbados for example about 2 Bajan dollars for 1 US dollar. Trinidad and Tobago has one of the highest PPP and HDI for all the Caribbean, and Dominican Republic makes the most money, China just built an expressway that cuts through Jamaica. The big problem for the Caribbean as a whole is Cuba and Haiti which remain in extreme poverty.

As for Guyana? Guyana is quasi South AMerican/Caribbean West Indian thing. Guyana is also part of South American and Caribbean trading blocs and has yet to pick a regional destiny at the moment besides Caricom common market which does not work for the country. Guyana just recently struck oil totaling 50 billion dollars worth, and at the same time voted out a Pro Cuban/Pro Venezuelan Socialist Marxist party known as the PPP which was racially Asian Indian, and voted in an Pro American leaning Unity Party. With improved economics, less and less Caribbean people will move to NYC.. Florida will be the number destination for Caribbean people in the foreseeable future.

As for people running to ATL? ATL needs to expand public transport, ATL roads are already congested. ATL boom years are over. Millions of black Americans from the North moved down there in the past decade. I'm not sure if more black people from the North or West will relocate to the black belt of America with its capital centered in Atlanta? Generally speaking some Caribbean blacks do not see eye to eye with African Americans. But who knows, anything is possible.
Since when were Dominicans West Indians, and when were they making so much money? Country is still extremely poor, not Haiti poor, but poor.
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:45 AM
 
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Since when were Dominicans West Indians, and when were they making so much money? Country is still extremely poor, not Haiti poor, but poor.
They are part of the Caribbean. Anything stretching from Cuba to Tobago is part of thr Caribbean. Dominican has a growing gdp. Big print with Dominican Republic is government corruption and the. Lack of transperancy.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:00 AM
 
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I know of a Dominican family who moved to Atlanta and opened up an hair salon that is mainly serves an African American clientele. Also I remember listening to an excerpt from the 2010 census where a Jamaican woman who moved to Atlanta, WNYC asked if Caribbean people follow the same path as African Americans to move down south instead of remaining in the North?

The question is, why will the Caribbean migration decline? With the rise of populism in America from the let Berncrats, and Trumpettes, such populism tends to target immigration. Neoliberal politicians such as the Regaenists, Bushes, Clintonians and Obama's were strong champion of immigration, and immigration means more votes for either Republican or Democrat parties. Recent elections may have turned some on not to immigrate to the US. Another big thing is economics. Some parts of the Caribbean is not that poor as initially thought. Barbados for example about 2 Bajan dollars for 1 US dollar. Trinidad and Tobago has one of the highest PPP and HDI for all the Caribbean, and Dominican Republic makes the most money, China just built an expressway that cuts through Jamaica. The big problem for the Caribbean as a whole is Cuba and Haiti which remain in extreme poverty.

As for Guyana? Guyana is quasi South AMerican/Caribbean West Indian thing. Guyana is also part of South American and Caribbean trading blocs and has yet to pick a regional destiny at the moment besides Caricom common market which does not work for the country. Guyana just recently struck oil totaling 50 billion dollars worth, and at the same time voted out a Pro Cuban/Pro Venezuelan Socialist Marxist party known as the PPP which was racially Asian Indian, and voted in an Pro American leaning Unity Party. With improved economics, less and less Caribbean people will move to NYC.. Florida will be the number destination for Caribbean people in the foreseeable future.

As for people running to ATL? ATL needs to expand public transport, ATL roads are already congested. ATL boom years are over. Millions of black Americans from the North moved down there in the past decade. I'm not sure if more black people from the North or West will relocate to the black belt of America with its capital centered in Atlanta? Generally speaking some Caribbean blacks do not see eye to eye with African Americans. But who knows, anything is possible.
I wouldn't go as far as to characterize Bernie supporters as being anti-immigration
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:21 AM
 
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I know of a Dominican family who moved to Atlanta and opened up an hair salon that is mainly serves an African American clientele. Also I remember listening to an excerpt from the 2010 census where a Jamaican woman who moved to Atlanta, WNYC asked if Caribbean people follow the same path as African Americans to move down south instead of remaining in the North?

The question is, why will the Caribbean migration decline? With the rise of populism in America from the let Berncrats, and Trumpettes, such populism tends to target immigration. Neoliberal politicians such as the Regaenists, Bushes, Clintonians and Obama's were strong champion of immigration, and immigration means more votes for either Republican or Democrat parties. Recent elections may have turned some on not to immigrate to the US. Another big thing is economics. Some parts of the Caribbean is not that poor as initially thought. Barbados for example about 2 Bajan dollars for 1 US dollar. Trinidad and Tobago has one of the highest PPP and HDI for all the Caribbean, and Dominican Republic makes the most money, China just built an expressway that cuts through Jamaica. The big problem for the Caribbean as a whole is Cuba and Haiti which remain in extreme poverty.

As for Guyana? Guyana is quasi South AMerican/Caribbean West Indian thing. Guyana is also part of South American and Caribbean trading blocs and has yet to pick a regional destiny at the moment besides Caricom common market which does not work for the country. Guyana just recently struck oil totaling 50 billion dollars worth, and at the same time voted out a Pro Cuban/Pro Venezuelan Socialist Marxist party known as the PPP which was racially Asian Indian, and voted in an Pro American leaning Unity Party. With improved economics, less and less Caribbean people will move to NYC.. Florida will be the number destination for Caribbean people in the foreseeable future.

As for people running to ATL? ATL needs to expand public transport, ATL roads are already congested. ATL boom years are over. Millions of black Americans from the North moved down there in the past decade. I'm not sure if more black people from the North or West will relocate to the black belt of America with its capital centered in Atlanta? Generally speaking some Caribbean blacks do not see eye to eye with African Americans. But who knows, anything is possible.
Caribbean immigration sans Haiti and Cuba has been slowing down way before Trump became a candidate.

You are right that parts of the Caribbean are not as poor as they once are.

You're offbase by making a general statement about Caribbean blacks don't get along with African Americans; that is simply not true.

And as far as black migration to Atlanta, Atlanta metro area has received by far the largest amount of black migrants. In the last ten years. It may slow down (Dallas seems to be attracting a large amount, which I think will continue especially after the hurricane in Houston, Cities in North Carolina and cities in Florida are also popular). But it seems likely that Atlanta will continue to attract large amounts of black migrants, among which will be Caribbean blacks.
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