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Old 02-19-2019, 07:33 PM
 
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So because your friend (one person) has that predicament that goes for ALL other restaraunteers? Is that the idea?
Did I say that....Stick a foot in in. You always think you know everything and your so high and mighty.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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The issue isn't going from 13 to 15. When this $15 minimum wage nonsense started, the functional minimum wage was $9. The legal min wage was less, but no one would work for less than $9. So we're really talking about a $6 increase. For a lot of businesses, that's a BIG hit.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Did I say that....Stick a foot in in. You always think you know everything and your so high and mighty.
Yeah, that’s pretty much what you said.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The issue isn't going from 13 to 15. When this $15 minimum wage nonsense started, the functional minimum wage was $9. The legal min wage was less, but no one would work for less than $9. So we're really talking about a $6 increase. For a lot of businesses, that's a BIG hit.
Yes, and when you look at other things that have crept up it’s tough to handle.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yes, and when you look at other things that have crept up it’s tough to handle.
Like ballooning rents despite there visibly being quite a bit of commercial vacancy?
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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What does the food costs have to do with them raising the min wage? My friends who own restaurants aren't paying more for their products because minimum wage increased.

They likely will, if it is locally distributed or made. Those corps will pass their increased costs on, also.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Like ballooning rents despite there visibly being quite a bit of commercial vacancy?
Yup... Water and other costs keep going up. Owners pass that on to the tenants. Taxes going up... All passed on...
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:57 PM
 
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I just want the very bottom rung of society to be kicked out of NYC. It's the most expensive city in the world. If you practice intergenerational welfare and have zero motivation, still live in your grandma's NYCHA housing, it's best that you leave.

Welfare within NYC should be temporary or for people who come from unfortunate circumstance but are striving to ensure the next generation doesn't depend on it. Once you're intergeneration, let's move you to a place with a cheaper cost of living and less density so civilization doesn't have to deal with your beastly behaviors.. I'm very socially liberal and happy to support them but not within this great city
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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So the drama is to blame the bottom-rung people working in restaurants for their lack if of profitability instead of putting the onus where it belongs, on gouging commercial landlords.
Put rent stabilization type guidelines on all properties being rented as meal providers/restaurants.


Does anyone think that the dishwasher's wage increase is more onerous a burden on a restaurateur's bottom line than the RENT?
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Like ballooning rents despite there visibly being quite a bit of commercial vacancy?
The rents are ballooning because the cost of owning commercial property keeps going up. The base rent will always be cost+%, especially when we are talking about smaller owners and not giant development corps who may be able to afford to lease out a space at a loss for X number of years. This is especially evident in Manhattan below 96th Street, where commercial tenants have to pay 3.9% CRT tax on top of everything else.


Here is how NYC government works:
Step 1 - Put in a tax on commercial tenants in Manhattan designed to discourage business rentals.
Step 2 - Tenants who can't afford the expense leave Manhattan, leaving most storefronts as Duane Reades, Starbucks, and Chase banks or vacant.
Step 3 - Cry that the tax works as intended and complain about vacant storefronts.
Step 4 - Tax vacant storefronts!!! (lmao)

Another example:
Step 1 - Subsidize NYCHA parking lots in Manhattan
Step 2 - Cry that there is too much traffic.
Step 3 - Institute congestion pricing on cars.
Step 4 - Subsidize parking lots in Manhattan with the money from congestion pricing tolls!!!

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