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Beginning this weekend state police (sent in by the Mouth of Albany) and MTA will launch an aggressive action to get homeless out of NYC subway system.
Why? These "crackdowns" happen like clockwork, and mostly are a waste of time and my tax money. Several months later things are right back to same old, same old. But elected officials can do a victory lap patting themselves on back saying they did *something*.
Took the "Q" and "R" last night, both were filled with homeless stretched out for the night on platforms and train cars. I all but promise you things will largely be the same weeks after this "crack down".
Back in the day (Rudy G's time) these crackdowns worked because there was an ongoing show of force against quality of life issues.
Still recall NYPD patrolling subway platforms and trains who would whack a bench, seat or whatever with their shillelagh to wake up anyone sleeping. Next words were to either move along or get themselves sorted out. They did it when patrolling Saint George or Whitehall ferry terminals as well.
Mind you it wasn't just the homeless, anyone caught stretched out/sleeping was given same treatment.
Reason why certain train lines are infested with homeless is that they have long rides (like the Broadway local and express trains), and people are largely left alone. Same goes for most subway stations, especially after say 8PM.
All the SAS stations on UES are have homeless camping out after hours, especially if weather is bad. Finding a Q train car without two or more homeless stinking things up, sleeping or whatever past say 9PM is just not possible.
Worse because of elevator access on Q homeless bring those carts carrying God only knows what with them into system.
It's the city's own fault things are way they are.
As stated under Rudy G homeless and other quality of life issues (panhandling, performers, etc...) were largely cracked down upon and eliminated. First few terms of Bloomberg this continued, then things began to backslide.
Sometime during Bloomberg's stolen third term noticed #6 train was starting to see an uptick in homeless and panhandlers. Mind you many of these were same persons recalled from years ago. Especially a big guy who looks like Yoda with a funny alien sort of voice.
Once BdeB came into office things just went down hill fast. For whatever reasons mayor's office and city government just let things go far as homeless on transit were concerned IMHO. Now that the system is infested with them and people who earn are starting to complain *again*, Albany and MTA finally takes some notice.
Back in the day (Rudy G's time) these crackdowns worked because there was an ongoing show of force against quality of life issues.
Still recall NYPD patrolling subway platforms and trains who would whack a bench, seat or whatever with their shillelagh to wake up anyone sleeping. Next words were to either move along or get themselves sorted out. They did it when patrolling Saint George or Whitehall ferry terminals as well.
Mind you it wasn't just the homeless, anyone caught stretched out/sleeping was given same treatment.
Reason why certain train lines are infested with homeless is that they have long rides (like the Broadway local and express trains), and people are largely left alone. Same goes for most subway stations, especially after say 8PM.
All the SAS stations on UES are have homeless camping out after hours, especially if weather is bad. Finding a Q train car without two or more homeless stinking things up, sleeping or whatever past say 9PM is just not possible.
Worse because of elevator access on Q homeless bring those carts carrying God only knows what with them into system.
E and R trains are entirely underground, which also helps attract homeless. Any long line mostly or entirely underground is good for them.
E also goes along 8th Avenue which has a lot of soup kitchens.
It's the city's own fault things are way they are.
As stated under Rudy G homeless and other quality of life issues (panhandling, performers, etc...) were largely cracked down upon and eliminated. First few terms of Bloomberg this continued, then things began to backslide.
Sometime during Bloomberg's stolen third term noticed #6 train was starting to see an uptick in homeless and panhandlers. Mind you many of these were same persons recalled from years ago. Especially a big guy who looks like Yoda with a funny alien sort of voice.
Once BdeB came into office things just went down hill fast. For whatever reasons mayor's office and city government just let things go far as homeless on transit were concerned IMHO. Now that the system is infested with them and people who earn are starting to complain *again*, Albany and MTA finally takes some notice.
Would you agree that it is not simply an issue of enforcement, though that's certainly part of the issue? The other is how horrendously expensive the city has become which pushes those who are already making a meager living into essentially not making a living at all. When you are homeless and cannot afford a roof over your head, it becomes extremely difficult to hold a job and then from there it is usually a pretty downward overall trajectory. Starting over in a new, less expensive city can help, but oftentimes those who are already at strong risk of homelessness are not in a particularly great position to get a new start elsewhere as that by itself is time and capital intensive.
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