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According to some it's because the police are standing down more now because if they to try to make a arrest against resistance they can't pin down people without it being a potential brutality charge on them and the plain clothes cops have been removed and the bail reform,
all out of the control of the (Republican) borough president
I figured.... I’m playing with their nerves.... it’s so funny to read their irate comments.... I’m an A-hole I know.... they call me a leftist, and leftists call me a right wing nut... lol who do I trust now???
Anyway nobody was capable of answering the question with constructive arguments of, why, despite being heavily republican and ran by a Republican shootings are up on Staten Island, I’m really willing to get an answer from all these people, so prompt to blame the “dems, the socialists, the lefties, antifa” and whatnot for any crime uptick.
Again, how come a borough that’s overwhelmingly republican, and, on top of that overwhelmingly voted for Trump (you know the 4-time draft dodger of law and order) is seeing a shooting incidents increase????
Anybody??? Or you just don’t have an answer??? Or is it basically because that Republican toughness is some lie and BS???
You don't know much about SI politics do you?
Only South Shore to perhaps Mid-Island is conservative/republican. North Shore is another matter; Debbie Rose, Max Rose, and the rest from over there represent the strong (and growing) liberal/progressive democrat base.
Maybe twenty, thirty or forty years ago when much of North Shore was still solidly white middle class things might have been different,but that was a long time ago. Aside from a few select areas the North Shore has gone down hill, and fast.
West Brighton for most part east of North Burgher once was a nice solid middle to upper middle class area. Now that has changed.... Ditto for much of Port Richmond, New Brighton, Saint George, and even areas of Mariners Harbor.
For years North Shore had a gay (but not exactly out) state senator Matthew Titone who among other things was largely responsible for push in Albany to get gay marriage legal in NYS.
In a bit of irony Mr. Titone and his life partner were't among the first to line up and get legally hitched after gay marriage became legal in NYC. Although people already knew, apparently it wasn't officially known and the partner was involved in construction so didn't want things spread from housetops.
Clifton is a neighborhood on the North Shore of Staten Island in New York City, United States. It is an older waterfront neighborhood, facing Upper New York Bay on the east. It is bordered on the north by Stapleton, on the south by Rosebank, on the southwest by Concord, and on the west by Van Duzer Street.
In 1900 the Fox Hills Golf Club encompassed the entire area of where the Park Hill Apartments are now. There was a big clubhouse on Vanderbilt Avenue. Many tournaments were held there until the 1935 when it closed. The land was taken over by the government and used for military barracks during World War II. By the 1950s, it evolved into a middle-class, multi-ethnic community of civil employees including firemen, teachers, and doctors.
The Park Hill Apartments in Clifton
Park Hill has been a predominantly black neighborhood for a while. However, there is a growing Asian and Hispanic population in the area. Census tract 4 has seen the second-highest growth rate in the Asian population of any census tract on Staten Island (with the highest growth rate being tract 231 in Mariners' Harbor). East of Tompkins Avenue, the White population increases noticeably.
The bulk of the Park Hill neighborhood was built in the 1960s in keeping with New York City's plan for urban renewal projects. It consists of 15 acres (61,000 m2) of 6-story brick apartment buildings. The individual apartments contained within are quite large, with many having 2 or three bedrooms. As ownership has passed into private hands, upkeep on the apartments has dwindled, leaving many of them in a state of disrepair.
The average price of a private house in Park Hill increased from 2002 ($159,254) to 2007 ($321,426). The Clifton neighborhood consists mostly of one-family houses; however, in the past decade many duplexes and attached houses have been developed on property previously zoned for commercial use.
The Park Hill Apartments, located on Vanderbilt Avenue and on Park Hill Avenue, were initially developed in the 1960s as a private apartment complex to which many people from the other boroughs of NYC moved after the opening of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. By the late 1960s, however, people realized that it was relatively inexpensive to move to Staten Island and purchase a home or rent an apartment in smaller buildings, which resulted in a loss of the emerging middle-class population it initially attracted. Park Hill remained privately owned but became federally subsidized low-income housing complex, and became the site of steadily increasing crime and drug abuse beginning in the early-1970s.
By the late 1980s it had gained the nickname of "Crack Hill" due to the many arrests for possession and/or sale of crack cocaine that were taking place in and around the development and the adjacent Fox Hills Apartments to the south. Crime in this area has dramatically decreased since the late 1990s. Community activists are addressing the ongoing conflict between Liberian and African-American youth, primarily between the ages of 10–14. The community organizations run after-school programs to help keep the youth occupied in a productive way. This helps curb gang and street violence. The community tension that occurs in Park Hill is based on poverty and unemployment.
Liberian Community
In the 1990s, the neighborhood became the center for an immigrant community from Liberia and West Africa around Targee Street. The residences in the neighborhood are mostly one-family houses, but the last decade has seen the development of many attached homes and duplexes.
Park Hill/Clifton (along with nearby Stapleton) has the largest Liberian population of any city outside Africa,[2] with an estimated 6,000 – 8,000 strong community of direct immigrants in 2007.
History and context
Beginning in the late 1970s, a small number of Liberians, whose nation was founded by freed American slaves in the 1840s, settled in Staten Island. The First Liberian Civil War (1989-1997) led to a flight of Liberian immigrants, fleeing ethnic struggles between the Kru, Gola and Grebo communities, corrupt government, and political strife.
The troubles of the Liberian Civil War period have been carried into the diaspora as well. There are thought to be dozens of former child soldiers living in the Park Hill area. These former child soldiers are often unwilling to talk about past experiences and fear judgment (or prosecution) for wartime deeds. Because of the large population of Liberians in the neighborhood, the Liberian Truth and Reconciliation Commission established after the civil war sent a representative to Clifton to collect testimony from Liberian nationals who experienced the Liberian Civil War and who currently reside in the neighborhood.
While there are successful business leaders in the community, the vast majority of Staten Island's Liberian immigrants are employed in low-wage service or medical fields. Many of the current residents of Park Hill are struggling with illiteracy, difficulty in finding employment, and poverty. Liberian immigrants in Park Hill also suffer from the legacy of poverty and violence in the wider community in which they live. While crime in the area has improved over the last 20 years, the reputation of Park Hill for gang and drug violence has afflicted some Liberian youth, already victimized by the Civil War. Liberian youths arrested while being refugee-status visa holders face deportation back to their homeland. Friction between the Liberians and some in the local African-American community, over jobs, housing, and culture, has also been a source of tension for an already troubled community.
Anyway nobody was capable of answering the question with constructive arguments of, why, despite being heavily republican and ran by a Republican shootings are up on Staten Island, I’m really willing to get an answer from all these people, so prompt to blame the “dems, the socialists, the lefties, antifa” and whatnot for any crime uptick.
Again, how come a borough that’s overwhelmingly republican, and, on top of that overwhelmingly voted for Trump (you know the 4-time draft dodger of law and order) is seeing a shooting incidents increase????
Anybody??? Or you just don’t have an answer??? Or is it basically because that Republican toughness is some lie and BS???
The question has been answered a few times here already. The Staten Island police blotter has always been heavy on the North Shore, where the projects and dilapidated areas are. As Airborneguy stated, as long as it's contained in those hoods, what does the GOP majority on Staten Island have anything to do with thugs shooting each other?
The question has been answered a few times here already. The Staten Island police blotter has always been heavy on the North Shore, where the projects and dilapidated areas are. As Airborneguy stated, as long as it's contained in those hoods, what does the GOP majority on Staten Island have anything to do with thugs shooting each other?
Not to mention that Staten island republicans have no jurisdiction over the NYPD. That’s all DeBlasios jurisdiction- regardless of what neighborhood the crime took place in. Now if someone like Guiliani and Trump were mayor and governor respectively over the entirety of New York State, then the complaint may be valid. But not really - conservatism in general is about individualism, responsibility, discipline and self sufficiency and it starts in the family. If a family is dysfunctional due to crime, drugs, or overall parental failure, then chances are its members would engage in crime. This is the difference between progressives and conservatives: Progressives will blame the government for actions individuals take. They don’t seem to care about personal responsibility and expect for legislation and more policy to fix issues.
Anyway nobody was capable of answering the question with constructive arguments of, why, despite being heavily republican and ran by a Republican shootings are up on Staten Island, I’m really willing to get an answer from all these people, so prompt to blame the “dems, the socialists, the lefties, antifa” and whatnot for any crime uptick.
Again, how come a borough that’s overwhelmingly republican, and, on top of that overwhelmingly voted for Trump (you know the 4-time draft dodger of law and order) is seeing a shooting incidents increase????
Anybody??? Or you just don’t have an answer??? Or is it basically because that Republican toughness is some lie and BS???
What are you not understanding? The areas where most of the gun violence is happening are mainly black and Democratic. It’s the Mid Island and South Shore that are Republican. Not all of the North Shore is crime ridden and Democratic, but the hood areas definitely are.
Absolutely. The posters here thinks its all of Staten Island because they don't know the island. It's like everywhere else: recently underpoliced black areas.
So basically, who cares?
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Mariners Harbor, Stapleton Housing.
Housing Projects were a dump back in the 70's.
Hundreds of Millions dumped to repair and maintain.
As fast as you fix them as fast as they were intentionally
destroyed. I witnessed. End result? No progress. If it weren't
for geographical containment Staten Island would meet a similar
fate as parts of Brooklyn and parts of Queens. Uninhabitable.
The best neighborhoods are on top of a hill, protected by a body of water, a railroad track,a highway,a park, a cemetery.
The same goes for a bad neighborhood. They are separated by the same body of water, a railroad track,a highway,a park,
and a cemetery..............but on the other side.
Government knows that most people who do not own their own home will not take care of them.
It drives down quality of life leading to erosion and loss city revenue. The city needs to protect its
interests as well.
You want a common bond? Advice......Clean up your act.
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One crime???? What about all these Gambino shootings and murders??? And no it was local residents sorry to say that, sorry it so hard for you to swallow, Third generation Italians can be garbage too sometimes.
But anyway the point that was raised was that apparently, when Republicans run a place there is no/very little crime. And what HellupinHarlem and myself were waiting for were the excuses, and apparently the excuses are that it was committed by black people near the ferry. Still ran by Republicans and crime still going up.
By the way having lived in Crown Heights in the past, despite the crime, people are still much nicer as a whole than anywhere on Staten Island. The amount of big-mouths-douchebags in that borough is amazing.
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