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Old 01-13-2021, 11:24 PM
 
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It's the neighbors on this block you feel sorry for, and another thing that has spoiled the Island.

People should buy a single family home for just that, a place to live in maybe raise a family, etc.... You don't basically turn that home into multi-family housing by renting out various levels to different tenants.

Renting out an entire home to one person or a family is one thing, but it is a slippery slope when what is supposed to be a private residence begins turning into an apartment building.

Neighbors on this block likely bought their homes to get away from the nonsense that comes from renters/high density housing. Once one house goes that way pretty soon another eegit gets same idea, then before you know it almost entire block starts to tip from quite residential single family homes to a busted area full of renters.

This has happened time and time again in various parts of SI (mostly North Shore, but fast happening elsewhere), and explains why some areas of Port Richmond and West New Brighton went from stable middle class streets of homeowners, to busted hoods (if not ghettos) in about a decade or two.
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Old 01-14-2021, 07:09 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Plenty of renters are running game, and thanks to Il Duce, Albany and usual suspects they can't be touched.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...vbar&nt=ticker

People who should have been evicted before covid are still in their apartments, haven't paid a GD dime in rent before March 2019, and certainly after (thanks to Albany), yet many are making bank or at least aren't busted. They're subletting, taking in roommates, running businesses out of their apartments....

Albany and supporters of usual suspects call such people "outliers", and that eventually LL will either get their money, or property back. Yeah good luck with that.
There are always people who will take advantage sadly. From this rent moratorium to social services we have many of these types around. Im sure plenty of us encountered somone "disabled" and on public services, who for some reason can run around partying, commiting crimes or having a child a year who they dont take care of for example.

Its easy not to care when they have no shame in thier game.
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Old 01-14-2021, 07:10 AM
 
Location: NY
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I just don't understand how people think this is ok. My rents gets paid early every month. I couldn't image not paying it.

You are a good egg. There is no way to justify what the tenants are doing other than taking advantage of protection under the law.
Once May 2021 rolls around eviction process will not be enough. Unscrupulous tenants have profited plain and simple.
If the city can not judge an award in favor of victimized Landlords a nice non expiring lien against property for unpaid
rent pursuant to a " Covid Crisis Rent Refund Act " would be a nice way to start.
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Old 01-15-2021, 06:15 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Ha I just read the article. I dealt with that wacko at work.
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Old 01-15-2021, 06:33 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Ha I just read the article. I dealt with that wacko at work.
Do tell more!!!

I did tell my wife that if we owned the home, I'd prob be in prison after I break "my" door down and throw both of them out on the street.
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Old 01-15-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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It's the neighbors on this block you feel sorry for, and another thing that has spoiled the Island.

People should buy a single family home for just that, a place to live in maybe raise a family, etc.... You don't basically turn that home into multi-family housing by renting out various levels to different tenants.

Renting out an entire home to one person or a family is one thing, but it is a slippery slope when what is supposed to be a private residence begins turning into an apartment building.

Neighbors on this block likely bought their homes to get away from the nonsense that comes from renters/high density housing. Once one house goes that way pretty soon another eegit gets same idea, then before you know it almost entire block starts to tip from quite residential single family homes to a busted area full of renters.

This has happened time and time again in various parts of SI (mostly North Shore, but fast happening elsewhere), and explains why some areas of Port Richmond and West New Brighton went from stable middle class streets of homeowners, to busted hoods (if not ghettos) in about a decade or two.

Do you know actually is buying these homes and making apartments out of them? I know on my block if this happened the neighbors will rat them out to the authorities.

I would never get into the renting game on the island, there is enough entitled trash and they are the worse ones like the ones skipping out on 80k of rent.
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Old 01-15-2021, 07:50 AM
 
Location: NYC
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It's the neighbors on this block you feel sorry for, and another thing that has spoiled the Island.

People should buy a single family home for just that, a place to live in maybe raise a family, etc.... You don't basically turn that home into multi-family housing by renting out various levels to different tenants.

Renting out an entire home to one person or a family is one thing, but it is a slippery slope when what is supposed to be a private residence begins turning into an apartment building.

Neighbors on this block likely bought their homes to get away from the nonsense that comes from renters/high density housing. Once one house goes that way pretty soon another eegit gets same idea, then before you know it almost entire block starts to tip from quite residential single family homes to a busted area full of renters.

This has happened time and time again in various parts of SI (mostly North Shore, but fast happening elsewhere), and explains why some areas of Port Richmond and West New Brighton went from stable middle class streets of homeowners, to busted hoods (if not ghettos) in about a decade or two.
You usually do that with someone who has pretty good credit so that if something happens you can sue them. I don't know why the couple in the video decide to skip rent and take advantage of the pandemic. It doesn't mean you no longer have to pay any rent. You simple owe rent and the landlord can sue for unpaid rent in the future.

I hope NYC is prepared for handling eviction cases post pandemic. Many people will be forced to go into bankruptcy with the amount of rent debt that will be piled up against them. It will destroy credit rating for many people who are probably partying and spending their rent money right now. So many Americans are just so irresponsible.
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Old 01-15-2021, 05:40 PM
 
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Do you know actually is buying these homes and making apartments out of them? I know on my block if this happened the neighbors will rat them out to the authorities.

I would never get into the renting game on the island, there is enough entitled trash and they are the worse ones like the ones skipping out on 80k of rent.
Know and or know of many on SI, as does probably many others who live on the Island. Illegal apartments are all over SI, North, South, East and West shores.... From people renting out basements, single family homes basically being chopped up into apartments, ditto for two and three family homes.

Lots of homeowners on SI have finished basements compete with bathroom, kitchen, etc... Sometimes this is just the second "family space", and or one of the kids (such as adult son) has this as his "apartment". But when the kids move away and or someone buys the house and doesn't have a need for that space they've got an "apartment" ready made.

Sometimes it's a "mother/daughter" unit situation, but still the C of O states home is a single family.

In other cases a family may still own a home, but for various reasons no longer live on Island (or at least that house), so divide things up (basement, first floor, second, whatever..) and rent out.

Again huge parts of West Brighton and Port Richmond are full of illegal apartments. Everyone knows about the situation but OTOH the Island has very little rental housing overall. SI is mostly private single and maybe two family homes.

https://www.silive.com/news/2016/02/...of%20Occupancy.)


https://www.silive.com/news/2016/12/...n_illegal.html

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/c...t-1929115.html

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-civil-court/1612437.html
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Old 01-16-2021, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Horrifying.

But considering that eviction action was initiated well before the pandemic moratorium was implemented shows just how stacked against LLs things are in NYC.

I am a LL and am fortunate that my tenant continues to pay rent during this pandemic as I'd be out of luck with the moratorium.

While I feel for renters out of luck, I still have a problem with eviction moratoriums as it screws LLs over. I also think that more thorough research needs to be done to see if such moratoriums implicate the Constitution's takings clause.

One silver lining going forward is that this publicity makes it all the more likely that these renters won't be able to scam another LL. They are now widely publicized as frauds. Eviction court documents already were red flags to future LLs, but this takes the cake.
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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In my family and circle of friends things are keeping to the old ways; house is given to the kids or grand kids when parents or whoever make their get away to Florida, North Carolina or wherever.

On another note sadly no small number of people bought on SI and couldn't afford their house unless they rented out an apartment. That and people have two or three family homes they've turned into rental properties. Parts of Port Richmond, West New Brighton, New Brighton and other areas are full of these houses. At least two friends from high school own a few houses each they've turned into Section 8 or other low income voucher properties.

The lowest of the low.
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