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Old 01-19-2022, 04:29 PM
 
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MTA has studied issue of platform doors many times, and it comes back to same issues again and again. Only limited number of stations would accommodate platform doors, and it would cost huge amounts just for them alone.

Nearly all of NYC subway system is well over one hundred years old. Platforms in many instances curve and bend to point there are sizable gaps for good part or all between train. Union Square for IRT has those sliding metal platforms, but City Hall and many other stations have gaps as well.
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Old 01-19-2022, 05:13 PM
 
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That is rather disgusting and harsh.
As opposed to what? Pushing asian woman onto subway tracks is wholesome?
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:35 AM
 
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Yes, spend billions to put up doors to deal to cope with the fact that we are surrounded by savages, drug addicts, and the severely mentally ill. Spending that money to force (yes, force) these people into treatment would result in a far higher net benefit than simply reducing subway pushers.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:02 AM
 
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The MTA has better things to spend money it doesn't have on.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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I think NYC has proven over and over why we can't have nice things.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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I think NYC has proven over and over why we can't have nice things.
Yep. Those shields will be vandalized in a new york minute.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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The MTA has better things to spend money it doesn't have on.
Yeah like hiring an accountant so they can find another surplus $1billion dollars after claiming to have no money and raising the fare?

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Yep. Those shields will be vandalized in a new york minute.
If we based building things on what would or wouldn't be vandalized, we wouldn't even have the MTA.
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NY
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Even if they finally ok this, it's going to take forever to build. The city is... old.


“China has them, Thailand has them, South Korea has them,” a former senior MTA official who did not want his name published told THE CITY. “Systems all over the world have made the decision to go in that direction, so now it’s just a matter of when are we going to wake up on this?”


Problem is.......what do all these countries have that New York City Doesn't?

Give up?

Answer : High Crime..................
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Old 01-27-2022, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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MTA Drops A 3,000-Page, 2019 Report To Show Problems With Platform Doors, Amid Calls For Better Track Safety

https://gothamist.com/news/mta-drops...ontent=2022127

Lawmakers and straphangers are renewing a call for the MTA to install platform screen doors, following the killing of Michelle Alyssa Go, who was pushed onto the subway tracks at Times Square as a train entered the station — but the agency appears reluctant to move forward on installing the doors.

These extra doors on platforms are used in major transit systems around the world and protect riders from falling or being shoved onto the tracks.

While the MTA has discussed the issue several times over the years, the authority actually commissioned an extensively detailed survey of every single station and what it might take to install protective doors — a study it's had in its possession for three years now.

n 2017, the MTA commissioned a consulting group to study all 472 subway stations to see if the platform barriers could be installed and what it would cost. Two years later, in 2019, the firm STV delivered a nearly 3,000-page report, which the MTA finally released publicly on Thursday afternoon.

The report found that only 128 stations could accommodate the protective barriers, and it would cost the MTA about $7 billion dollars to install them. That would be almost 14% of the current capital plan, which already includes $5 billion for making 71 stations accessible, $7 billion for converting seven lines to modern electronic signaling, and buying nearly 2,000 new subway cars and more than 2,000 new buses. The cost of the next phase of the Second Avenue subway extension is pegged at a little more than $6 billion...
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Old 01-28-2022, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Yes, spend billions to put up doors to deal to cope with the fact that we are surrounded by savages, drug addicts, and the severely mentally ill. Spending that money to force (yes, force) these people into treatment would result in a far higher net benefit than simply reducing subway pushers.
FYI, NYC already spends billions of dollars per year on homeless, drug addicts, and mentally ill.
In fact, one years' worth of the money the city spends on homeless is enough to outfit all of the subway platforms that can accommodate the platform doors. Two years worth of money the city spends on homeless is enough to build out the entire full length ALL phases of second avenue subway, even with our outrageous costs. The amount of money the city spends on infrastructure is tiny compared to money spend on social issues. Diverting infrastructure money to help the homeless would do absolutely nothing, since it will be a drop in the bucket.
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