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Old 03-11-2022, 06:48 PM
 
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I don't quite get this.

How much raised, and how much would it really help? Are they just speed bumps?



Raising Crosswalks to Make Deadly Intersections Safer in New York
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Old 03-11-2022, 07:10 PM
 
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No, enough with the traffic enraging devices.
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Old 03-12-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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I don't quite get this.

How much raised, and how much would it really help? Are they just speed bumps?



Raising Crosswalks to Make Deadly Intersections Safer in New York
https://newsalertspecial.com/u-s-new...r-in-new-york/


New York City Is Finally Getting Raised Crosswalks
https://www.curbed.com/2022/01/new-y...rosswalks.html

Just speed bumps which will slow down emergency vehicles.
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Old 03-12-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Sounds like a great way for the city to get sued.
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Old 03-15-2022, 12:17 PM
 
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They have these in Amsterdam and they work perfectly. The idea of the raised crosswalk is to make the pedestrian path continuous and safe. Rather than having pedestrians step down onto a car’s right of way to cross a street, the car needs to come up on the pedestrians right of way. This traffic calming device is designed for areas with high pedestrian traffic, residential streets that want to limit through traffic or school areas and it’s been very successful at making the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:26 PM
 
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They have these in Amsterdam and they work perfectly. The idea of the raised crosswalk is to make the pedestrian path continuous and safe. Rather than having pedestrians step down onto a car’s right of way to cross a street, the car needs to come up on the pedestrians right of way. This traffic calming device is designed for areas with high pedestrian traffic, residential streets that want to limit through traffic or school areas and it’s been very successful at making the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
How can anyone compare NYC to Amsterdam is beyond me.
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:31 PM
 
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How can anyone compare NYC to Amsterdam is beyond me.
Dont most people bike there like peasants even though they are not?
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Old 03-15-2022, 03:14 PM
 
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How can anyone compare NYC to Amsterdam is beyond me.
This logic is short sided, to put it kindly. You are essentially saying that NYC should not look to anywhere for guidance because we are unbelievably unique that we can’t possibly learn anything from any other city. It’s bonkers.

Amsterdam in the 70 and 80s looked a lot like NY, in terms of street design. Over decades, gradual policy changes transformed the city into what is now, a city much more pleasant and safe for pedestrians and cyclists. It also had an added bonus for drivers, by providing great alternatives to the car, traffic drastically improved for car drivers as people ditched their cars for other modes of transit
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Old 03-15-2022, 05:39 PM
 
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How can anyone compare NYC to Amsterdam is beyond me.
Actually, this puts me in mind of the documentary “Where to Invade Next” which points out that other countries often have figured out better solutions, and maybe the U.S. might benefit if we stopped being so stubbornly resistant to outside ideas. It's something to consider, given how we're not doing well statistically, in terms of crime, health, etc.
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Old 03-15-2022, 05:41 PM
 
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They have these in Amsterdam and they work perfectly. The idea of the raised crosswalk is to make the pedestrian path continuous and safe. Rather than having pedestrians step down onto a car’s right of way to cross a street, the car needs to come up on the pedestrians right of way. This traffic calming device is designed for areas with high pedestrian traffic, residential streets that want to limit through traffic or school areas and it’s been very successful at making the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Okay, thanks. It's an interesting idea, and makes sense around schools. But not for Manhattan n gneral, especially since the speed bump would still be there as an impediment during a green light without any pedestrians.

The one good thing is that is would eliminate the puddling in crosswalks after rainstores.
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