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^This. Which is why remote places from Manhattan like Far Rockaway and ENY will never completely gentrify. The best one can hope for is that some Chassidic sect will construct a synagogue and center in ENY. Those ENY rowhouses at one time were quite nice and there are still some SFH. There's still a decent park with a playground if it was cleaned up.
^This. Which is why remote places from Manhattan like Far Rockaway and ENY will never completely gentrify. The best one can hope for is that some Chassidic sect will construct a synagogue and center in ENY. Those ENY rowhouses at one time were quite nice and there are still some SFH. There's still a decent park with a playground if it was cleaned up.
They’ve been trying with far Rockaway for sometime but again I don’t see it happening due to the distance. Gotta think about the types of people they are attracting with these luxury high rises (young people from out of state looking to have the Instagram NYC life ) that’s hard to have when you live so far out from Manhattan
^This. Which is why remote places from Manhattan like Far Rockaway and ENY will never completely gentrify. The best one can hope for is that some Chassidic sect will construct a synagogue and center in ENY. Those ENY rowhouses at one time were quite nice and there are still some SFH. There's still a decent park with a playground if it was cleaned up.
Gentrification follows a very logical procession. What we all commonly refer to gentrification is nothing more than supply and demand during the early to middle stages .
Williamsburg would never have gentrified if lower Manhattan didn't have a terrible supply and demand imbalance alance. Bed-Stuy would have never started gentrifying if Williamsburg didn't start to have a terrible supply and demand.imbalance. Bushwick would not have started gentrifying if bed-stuy didn't exhibit initial signs of a supply and demand imbalance.
After enough initial gentrification has occurred in an area it starts to create its own organic demand which is what happened to Williamsburg and what is in the middle stages of happening in Bed-Stuy.
A close analog is the car industry. Initially, Kia and Hyundai were mainly attracting Toyota and Honda buyers because Toyota and Honda entry level cars were starting to get more expensive and the American brands were getting out of the entry level car market entirely.
After some years of building up a customer base, Kia and Hyundai now have much more organic demand than they used to even though they're still not on a Toyota or Honda level. People are now initially looking only at Kia and Hyundai and not because something else is more expensive.
They’ve been trying with far Rockaway for sometime but again I don’t see it happening due to the distance. Gotta think about the types of people they are attracting with these luxury high rises (young people from out of state looking to have the Instagram NYC life ) that’s hard to have when you live so far out from Manhattan
There was not much to gentrify in Far Rockaway and I'd say that the areas that could be "gentrified", have already been gentrified.
The poorer population in Far Rockaway is concentrated in NYCHA and M-L housing in a very small area (like a 1/2 mile by 1/2 mile area). There's no gentrifying that. Apart from that, Far Rockaway was a fairly solid middle class (blue collar) area.
Gentrification follows a very logical procession. What we all commonly refer to gentrification is nothing more than supply and demand during the early to middle stages .
Williamsburg would never have gentrified if lower Manhattan didn't have a terrible supply and demand imbalance alance. Bed-Stuy would have never started gentrifying if Williamsburg didn't start to have a terrible supply and demand.imbalance. Bushwick would not have started gentrifying if bed-stuy didn't exhibit initial signs of a supply and demand imbalance.
After enough initial gentrification has occurred in an area it starts to create its own organic demand which is what happened to Williamsburg and what is in the middle stages of happening in Bed-Stuy.
A close analog is the car industry. Initially, Kia and Hyundai were mainly attracting Toyota and Honda buyers because Toyota and Honda entry level cars were starting to get more expensive and the American brands were getting out of the entry level car market entirely.
After some years of building up a customer base, Kia and Hyundai now have much more organic demand than they used to even though they're still not on a Toyota or Honda level. People are now initially looking only at Kia and Hyundai and not because something else is more expensive.
East New York gentrification new name = Old York mini city in city with culture, art, science, dining
It will never be like Williamsburg. They have been building like crazy in Jamaica Queens, especially Jamaica Center and guess what??? It is nothing like Williamsburg, way too far. East New York like Williamsburg?? Never !
And Williamsburg at its worse was Disneyland compared to East NY. I know plenty of people in East NY, there is nothing attractive and desirable. It's an unsafe commuter town with some of the worst gang activity, shootings, stabbings, muggings in the whole city.
And people living in East NY wanna tell me how terrible it is that I live in the Bronx....
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very rough area. Like the roughest areas in baltimore but dense and actually populated with residents.
When the op posted the article and the man living in east ny said "it will be like williamsburg." uhm, no, not a chance-that it never will, respectfully.
There has been some construction of new 2-family homes and 3-family homes in ENY over the last 20 years. ENY is the only part of Brooklyn with a lot of vacant land zoned for 2 and 3 family homes, so some builders put up new homes. It's the 'no place left to build' factor.
These are not new homes. They're old homes that investors have touched up. Some better than others depending on how quick a buck the investor is trying to make.
The commute to even LES is 30min via bed stuy. The commute from ENY is an hour to that same area (& that’s me being generous with the commute time with trains). The optics are not the same in terms of commute /distance to Manhattan with ENY
East NY is a large area, and even the last Brooklyn stop on the J train (Cypress Hills), borderline Queens, is about 30 minutes from the city. Of course it all depends how far you are from train stations.
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