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Old 08-28-2022, 08:27 AM
 
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It will never be like Williamsburg. They have been building like crazy in Jamaica Queens, especially Jamaica Center and guess what??? It is nothing like Williamsburg, way too far. East New York like Williamsburg?? Never !
And Williamsburg at its worse was Disneyland compared to East NY. I know plenty of people in East NY, there is nothing attractive and desirable. It's an unsafe commuter town with some of the worst gang activity, shootings, stabbings, muggings in the whole city.
And people living in East NY wanna tell me how terrible it is that I live in the Bronx....
No one is claiming it'll be like Williamsburg. On the other hand, many also forget /don't realize that it too Williamsburg over 30 years to get to where it's at today. Williamsburg started to gentrify in the early 1990s.
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:05 AM
 
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An influx of People started moving to Williamsburg in the 90s. Rent was still cheap there. Prices didn’t start inflating until the 2000s. That’s when locals started being displaced - that is when gentrification starts.
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:25 AM
 
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A lot of rappers will be upset about this.

Claiming to be from East New York used to lend a certain amount of "street cred" for them.

If ENY gets gentrified they can't use it as a bragging point any more.
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:30 AM
 
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An influx of People started moving to Williamsburg in the 90s. Rent was still cheap there. Prices didn’t start inflating until the 2000s. That’s when locals started being displaced - that is when gentrification starts.
When gentrification is OBVIOUS that means it started some years before.

Rising prices means gentrification is already well underway. It's simply a market signal that there is ALREADY a substantial enough market imbalance.
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Old 08-28-2022, 12:07 PM
 
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Yes prices didn't start to rise until the 2000s. The very definition of gentrification is when locals start being displaced. Prices raised in 2000 displacing people up until 2012 that’s when it was “fully” gentrified.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:37 PM
 
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A lot of rappers will be upset about this.

Claiming to be from East New York used to lend a certain amount of "street cred" for them.

If ENY gets gentrified they can't use it as a bragging point any more.
It already started by 2030 it will be on 2008-2010 Williamsburg in term of development there will pockets of gentrification but still in hood in some spots.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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An influx of People started moving to Williamsburg in the 90s. Rent was still cheap there. Prices didn’t start inflating until the 2000s. That’s when locals started being displaced - that is when gentrification starts.
Yep--exactly. I was part of those people moving to Williamsburg in the early 2000's--I moved into a loft on Broadway and Wythe, looking at the Wburg Bridge in early 2001. Know what my rent for a private bedroom in the loft was--just $650/month. Then, my buddy and I moved about 6 mos later to a 2 bed loft on kent and north 8th (early 2002), and paid just $1600/month--and that raised to $1800 in early 2003.

I left that loft location in 2005, and my buddy lived there until moving out, in 2010. When he moved out, he paid just $2000, and then the landlord increased it to $4800, when he left. Today, it's probably going for at least 6 grand--it had a sweeping view of Manhattan from the living room.

Anyway, Williamsburg has the incredible amenity of being adjacent to Manhattan, and a 4 minute train ride away. That's what led to its explosive, rapid gentrification, from a no man's drug and prostitute land in the 90s/early 2000s, up to essentially the "Soho of Brooklyn" today (at least with its popularity, branding and housing prices).

East NY has several things going against it to have anything remotely close to Wburg's gentrification. First off is location so far from everything, and secondly, the low income of the area, and third, crime is higher than many other areas.
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Old 08-28-2022, 02:01 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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No one is claiming it'll be like Williamsburg. On the other hand, many also forget /don't realize that it too Williamsburg over 30 years to get to where it's at today. Williamsburg started to gentrify in the early 1990s.
Yes but Williamsburg is across the River from Manhattan…. east New York is in the middle of nowhere.
And yes the resident in the article says it’s gonna be like Williamsburg
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Old 08-28-2022, 02:16 PM
 
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signs of gentrification is everywhere i went on a bike ride to sunset park yesterday and there was farmers market outside the park and some of these trendy coffee shops across the street. even on 8th avenue on 41st they have this trendy looking cafe next to some ghetto looking chinese take out it looks very out of place.
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Old 08-28-2022, 04:18 PM
 
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signs of gentrification is everywhere i went on a bike ride to sunset park yesterday and there was farmers market outside the park and some of these trendy coffee shops across the street. even on 8th avenue on 41st they have this trendy looking cafe next to some ghetto looking chinese take out it looks very out of place.
There has been a farmers market on 4th Avenue between 59th and 60th for years. It started in Leif Ericson park but apparently wasn't getting enough foot traffic there. (Too bad, it was a nicer, cooler spot for the vendors.) Anyone know how long this market by Sunset Park has been there?
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