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Old 09-11-2022, 06:01 PM
 
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Unlike Manhattan and Brooklyn, Queens is still experiencing White flight.
From 2010 to 2020, Queens lost almost 70k white residents, more than the losses of the Bronx and Staten Island combined. Whites went from being the largest racial group at 27.6% of the population to third at just 22.8%. Forrest Hills in particular saw one of the biggest drops in its white population in the entire city. Why is Queens not only losing white residents but also failing to attract new ones? I don’t get it. Queens is not even that bad to be losing more whites than even the Bronx.

 
Old 09-11-2022, 06:55 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Unlike Manhattan and Brooklyn, Queens is still experiencing White flight.
From 2010 to 2020, Queens lost almost 70k white residents, more than the losses of the Bronx and Staten Island combined. Whites went from being the largest racial group at 27.6% of the population to third at just 22.8%. Forrest Hills in particular saw one of the biggest drops in its white population in the entire city. Why is Queens not only losing white residents but also failing to attract new ones? I don’t get it. Queens is not even that bad to be losing more whites than even the Bronx.
The Whites leaving are either moving out of State or moving out to places like Long Island. Areas like Whitestone are historically ethnically white (Italians, Greeks, Irish, etc.). Italians are not being replaced and some are moving out. Greeks are still coming in, but not at the same clip and the Irish, most of the ones off of the boat couldn't afford such areas of Queens, so they go to Woodlawn in The Bronx.

Queens has become quite expensive for what it is, including areas like Forest Hills, so Whites are simply moving and getting more bang for the buck. The transplant Whites want to be close to Manhattan so Long Island City, Astoria and other such neighborhoods have become expensive and in demand.

For what it's worth, The Bronx has lost a sizable amount of Whites as well and only has about 10% of the White population left in the borough, mainly concentrated in the safe neighborhoods such as Riverdale, Country Club, Woodlawn, Morris Park, City Island, parts of the greater Throggs Neck area (Edgewater Park, Silver Beach, etc.), Pelham Gardens, Pelham Bay and Pelham Parkway. Most of these neighborhoods are low density and offer a more middle class lifestyle that would attract White residents - these areas tend to see more homeowners and thus offer more stability.

I was in Whitestone at a CB meeting not too long ago, and I can tell you that there were plenty of Whites there. In fact the entire room was White, but the neighborhood overall is less White than it was years ago - Asians have steadily been moving in.

Forest Hills still has plenty of Whites, particularly Jews, but there are more Eastern Europeans coming in. My barber lives in Forest Hills and is from Uzbekistan.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:12 PM
 
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The Whites leaving are either moving out of State or moving out to places like Long Island. Areas like Whitestone are historically ethnically white (Italians, Greeks, Irish, etc.). Italians are not being replaced and some are moving out. Greeks are still coming in, but not at the same clip and the Irish, most of the ones off of the boat couldn't afford such areas of Queens, so they go to Woodlawn in The Bronx.

Queens has become quite expensive for what it is, including areas like Forest Hills, so Whites are simply moving and getting more bang for the buck. The transplant Whites want to be close to Manhattan so Long Island City, Astoria and other such neighborhoods have become expensive and in demand.

For what it's worth, The Bronx has lost a sizable amount of Whites as well and only has about 10% of the White population left in the borough, mainly concentrated in the safe neighborhoods such as Riverdale, Country Club, Woodlawn, Morris Park, City Island, parts of the greater Throggs Neck area (Edgewater Park, Silver Beach, etc.), Pelham Gardens, Pelham Bay and Pelham Parkway. Most of these neighborhoods are low density and offer a more middle class lifestyle that would attract White residents - these areas tend to see more homeowners and thus offer more stability.

I was in Whitestone at a CB meeting not too long ago, and I can tell you that there were plenty of Whites there. In fact the entire room was White, but the neighborhood overall is less White than it was years ago - Asians have steadily been moving in.

Forest Hills still has plenty of Whites, particularly Jews, but there are more Eastern Europeans coming in. My barber lives in Forest Hills and is from Uzbekistan.

They moving to Long Island, CT suburbs, Westchester, NJ suburbs
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:17 PM
 
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Queens is and has always been a strange borough. It's a very inconvenient borough west of the BQE due to it's size. It's 50% larger than Brooklyn in terms of land area and it feels that way.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:21 PM
 
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Awaiting a QueensGuy72/HockeyFan/RussiaRussiaRussia/Islanders2021 diatribe in 3... 2... 1...
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:24 PM
 
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Queens is and has always been a strange borough. It's a very inconvenient borough west of the BQE due to it's size. It's 50% larger than Brooklyn in terms of land area and it feels that way.

Queens got some best areas in the city for homes better than Staten Island.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:32 PM
 
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Unlike Manhattan and Brooklyn, Queens is still experiencing White flight.
From 2010 to 2020, Queens lost almost 70k white residents, more than the losses of the Bronx and Staten Island combined. Whites went from being the largest racial group at 27.6% of the population to third at just 22.8%. Forrest Hills in particular saw one of the biggest drops in its white population in the entire city. Why is Queens not only losing white residents but also failing to attract new ones? I don’t get it. Queens is not even that bad to be losing more whites than even the Bronx.
Between 2000-2010 Queens was the only borough to have lost over 100k White residents. I'm not entirely sure why but my guess is due to many of them selling their homes to immigrant families for big $$ and moving out.

What really surprised me was how much the Black Population declined in Brooklyn. They went from over 36% to under 27% over the past 20 years.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:46 PM
 
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Between 2000-2010 Queens was the only borough to have lost over 100k White residents. I'm not entirely sure why but my guess is due to many of them selling their homes to immigrant families for big $$ and moving out.

What really surprised me was how much the Black Population declined in Brooklyn. They went from over 36% to under 27% over the past 20 years.

Not just Brooklyn losing black residents Queens as well I see more Hispanics and Indians in Jamaica area it wasn't that much in 2010. Brooklyn is not surprising residents are getting push out due to high cost Downtown Brooklyn look like extension of Manhattan.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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Queens got some best areas in the city for homes better than Staten Island.
Define "best". It's an inconvenient borough. Just like Staten Island.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 07:53 PM
 
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What really surprised me was how much the Black Population declined in Brooklyn. They went from over 36% to under 27% over the past 20 years.
Why do you think BK is the hottest borough over the past decade? Bed-Stuy Do or Die is now Bed-Stuy Do or Dive Bar for Caleb and Chloe.
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