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Old 05-20-2023, 04:01 PM
 
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5% of its legitimate citizens, and a lot of that 5% are probably in high millionaire category. (The real taxpayers jumped ship)

Today by my estimation, about 21% of NYC are illegal aliens or of other unlawful status. (By my own guesswork)
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:36 PM
 
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The welfare class is never going to leave. They can’t get all of the types of free stuff they can get here anywhere else. As miserable it can get here (depressing weather half the year, dilapidated housing, third world infrastructure, so many unhappy looking people, crime, everything expensive yet the service/quality you get is poor, traffic, dirty, noise, etc.) some people have told me they just won’t leave because they won’t be able to get the same level of government benefits elsewhere.
I don't know if the Mayor and the governor can keep finding ways to tax the people with income mobility, I can estimate more than 5% left NYC while still working in NYC simply by relocating their domicile to do avoid taxes. Then NY has no choice but to implement more use and commuter taxes like congestion tax in order to hit those people who don't live here but still come into to do business.

If they don't cut cost and wall street takes a huge dive then they will be in big trouble. Like when Bloomberg showed up he had to force government to be more efficient.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:28 PM
 
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5% of its legitimate citizens, and a lot of that 5% are probably in high millionaire category. (The real taxpayers jumped ship)

Today by my estimation, about 21% of NYC are illegal aliens or of other unlawful status. (By my own guesswork)
Thanks for admitting that it’s just your guesswork. I thought you may be interested to learn the truth: nyc has more millionaires than any city in the world and that number increased over decade. There are 340k of them. Many news sources ran this story, including New York post
https://nypost.com/2023/04/20/nyc-is...ty-report/amp/
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Old 05-21-2023, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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5% of its legitimate citizens, and a lot of that 5% are probably in high millionaire category. (The real taxpayers jumped ship)

Today by my estimation, about 21% of NYC are illegal aliens or of other unlawful status. (By my own guesswork)
stop trying so hard to make an agenda.
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Old 05-21-2023, 04:21 AM
 
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5% of its legitimate citizens, and a lot of that 5% are probably in high millionaire category. (The real taxpayers jumped ship)

Today by my estimation, about 21% of NYC are illegal aliens or of other unlawful status. (By my own guesswork)
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I don't know if the Mayor and the governor can keep finding ways to tax the people with income mobility, I can estimate more than 5% left NYC while still working in NYC simply by relocating their domicile to do avoid taxes. Then NY has no choice but to implement more use and commuter taxes like congestion tax in order to hit those people who don't live here but still come into to do business.

If they don't cut cost and wall street takes a huge dive then they will be in big trouble. Like when Bloomberg showed up he had to force government to be more efficient.
There's no need to guess.

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New data from the Internal Revenue Service shows that New York state lost $25 billion in adjusted gross income due to outmigration in 2021, on top of $20 billion lost in 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/02/new-...x-states.html#

It's not a coincidence that the city council is scrambling to find new tax revenue streams. Most of which center around fees/fines that focus on the middle class.
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Old 05-21-2023, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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What kind of papers had German and Italian immigrants, for instance, signed before their arrivals at Ellis Island? I often hope my English immigrant ancestors in South Carolina and Virginia had kinder things to say about my German ancestors who later joined them than the comments I see about immigrants from south of the border. If NYC, with those words inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, isn’t welcoming to immigrants who got there any way they could to escape famine and abuse as immigrants from across the pond did back in the day, where is?
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Old 05-21-2023, 09:42 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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What kind of papers had German and Italian immigrants, for instance, signed before their arrivals at Ellis Island? I often hope my English immigrant ancestors in South Carolina and Virginia had kinder things to say about my German ancestors who later joined them than the comments I see about immigrants from south of the border. If NYC, with those words inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, isn’t welcoming to immigrants who got there any way they could to escape famine and abuse as immigrants from across the pond did back in the day, where is?
That’s the thing. We are no longer back in the day.
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Old 05-21-2023, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Today's welcoming Statue of Liberty quote would read:

"I got mine, go F*** yourself."
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Old 05-21-2023, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Today's welcoming Statue of Liberty quote would read:

"I got mine, go F*** yourself."
Exactly. Sad. So no longer the “greatest city in the world,” I guess.
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Old 05-21-2023, 11:23 AM
 
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But yet, they keep voting the same party/policies in! Congratulations!
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