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Old 07-08-2023, 02:18 AM
 
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https://www.businessinsider.com/door...um-wage-2023-7


Their entire business model is built upon preying on illegal immigrants. Now that they have to pay an actual wage they will be ruined.
Yeah well when you enter a country illegally and don't have skills and or education for anything better though cheddar. These people can always pack up and go back to wherever they came from and see how much money they make there delivering food.

As for rest of it eff em! GD delivery persons on bikes zooming down streets (including going wrong way), blasting through red lights/stop signs, speeding on sidewalks.. They're menace to public safety and society.

When not doing above they gather anywhere they feel like it; drink tons of cheap scuzzy beer then urinate all over the place. Many delis and convenience stores have signs on doors or windows (in English and Spanish) telling people not to stand in front of store drinking beer and so forth...
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Old 07-08-2023, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The problem is not solved by higher wages. That only increases the cost, and boosts inflation. Either a business passes on its increased cost or it goes out of business - and fires all employees. Either way, the problem gets worse.

The problem is the government's inflationary policies and debt-credit money tokens.
And the biggest problem is socialist income taxation.
All taxes shift to the retail price. Where else do businesses and their employees get their tax money if not from the customer.
It's called TAX SHIFT INFLATION, and no juggling of the prime rate can stop it.

Remedy : eliminate all taxes on labor and industry. Make America a tax haven.
(And watch how much more take home pay can buy when there's no more tax shift inflation)

Watch how fast expatriate industries return, when there's no tax man, nor administrative overhead to deal with.
Then we tackle the next hurdle - which requires repealing the 14th amendment's clause 4. Once we can challenge the fraudulent public debt (in excess of 32 trillion dollars), the faster we can void it. (CONgress was never lent 32 trillion DOLLARS - the world supply of gold, if coined pursuant to the Coinage Act of 1792 would only amount to 133 billion DOLLARS)
Of course the irate creditor will probably foment a war against the USA, on some trumped up pretense. But thems the breaks, kiddo.


Oh, forgot to mention that voiding the public debt also voids federal reserve notes, which are part of that debt. Overnight, billionaires become zero-aires.
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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$18x40x52 = $37440

Livable? I think not!

It is so far below livable that we need to rethink the concept of a minimum wage and what benefit, if any, is derived from it.
most of em have more than the food delivery job.. u do know that right??

that little 37k is more than they're living on now. right or wrong?
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Old 07-08-2023, 10:07 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The real problem is ya'll don't wanna pay for ----

Let's be honest

Wha type of New Yorkers are ya'll

This is a business. This city provides every type of service. I can ride a train, sit on a boat, and ride on a plane all in one day here if I wanted to spend the money. But ya'll don't want to pay!

Ya'll wasn't born here like me, I'm convinced now

If you don't like it here then go

Everybody needs money to survive, some are more proficient at it than others, lol, or maybe you can even say some were lucky. Energy reciprocates, that's all I know.

But we can't all expect everybody to be wealthy, can we?

Do we all expect everyone to do better? Isn't that what passes for Communism nowadays, when everyone's doing good, or everyone's doing bad?

Or are you guys just in denial

You're playing yourselves

Either make more money, or leave
I'm sick of the City trying to turn low-skilled, low-wage jobs into "livable wage jobs". These jobs have always supplemented peoples' incomes. They were never meant to be jobs to feed families and now that NYC has eliminated middle class manufacturing jobs, they are trying to turn low wage service jobs into "high-paying jobs" (high-paying compared to the skillset). It's not sustainable. The business model that Uber, DoorDash, etc. have pays people as independent contractors and NYC is trying to make it so that these people are paid almost like employees. The business model doesn't work that way because the cost of the service becomes too expensive to justify using it. I mean what are they going to raise the prices to?

As it stands now, just a regular pizza with tip costs easily $25 - 30. At some point, you have prices that just become too high. Is someone going to pay $40 - 50 for a pizza with tip? I don't think so, and that's the issue here, so while they may think that they're getting higher wages, fewer people will order because the prices will be too high.
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Old 07-08-2023, 11:40 PM
 
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$18x40x52 = $37440

Livable? I think not!

It is so far below livable that we need to rethink the concept of a minimum wage and what benefit, if any, is derived from it.
That's plenty livable. I live a great life on less.
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Old 07-09-2023, 12:47 AM
 
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I'm sick of the City trying to turn low-skilled, low-wage jobs into "livable wage jobs". These jobs have always supplemented peoples' incomes. They were never meant to be jobs to feed families and now that NYC has eliminated middle class manufacturing jobs, they are trying to turn low wage service jobs into "high-paying jobs" (high-paying compared to the skillset). It's not sustainable. The business model that Uber, DoorDash, etc. have pays people as independent contractors and NYC is trying to make it so that these people are paid almost like employees. The business model doesn't work that way because the cost of the service becomes too expensive to justify using it. I mean what are they going to raise the prices to?

As it stands now, just a regular pizza with tip costs easily $25 - 30. At some point, you have prices that just become too high. Is someone going to pay $40 - 50 for a pizza with tip? I don't think so, and that's the issue here, so while they may think that they're getting higher wages, fewer people will order because the prices will be too high.
So true. They talk about "jobs Americans won't do" but American kids were doing these jobs for decades before mostly Hispanic illegal aliens came by the hundreds of thousands to NYC/LI starting in the late mid 90s. Every teenager I new growing up in the 80s had a part time job at places like McDonalds or a local deli/bagel store to help put some money in their pocket during high school/college, including myself. In fact it was almost embarrasing to see a person in their late 20's, 30's, 40s or 50s working these types of jobs unless they were part of a 2nd job (single mom) or a retiree. Nowadays every deli in Queens has Hispanics working in them full time as their "career." Folks that are raising kids and paying rent. Totally unskilled and mostly uneducated foreigners. Even the deli my friend and I worked in until end of college is now all Hispanic s who do it as a full time job.

Notice you never hear the term "entry level" jobs anymore at these places. The far left liberal scum of this city and others like them expect small biz owners to pay living wages to grown ass adults to flip burgers and make ham sandwiches while we the customers pay out the nose.
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Old 07-09-2023, 04:48 AM
 
Location: NY
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So true. They talk about "jobs Americans won't do" but American kids were doing these jobs for decades before mostly Hispanic illegal aliens came by the hundreds of thousands to NYC/LI starting in the late mid 90s. Every teenager I new growing up in the 80s had a part time job at places like McDonalds or a local deli/bagel store to help put some money in their pocket during high school/college, including myself. In fact it was almost embarrasing to see a person in their late 20's, 30's, 40s or 50s working these types of jobs unless they were part of a 2nd job (single mom) or a retiree. Nowadays every deli in Queens has Hispanics working in them full time as their "career." Folks that are raising kids and paying rent. Totally unskilled and mostly uneducated foreigners. Even the deli my friend and I worked in until end of college is now all Hispanic s who do it as a full time job.

Notice you never hear the term "entry level" jobs anymore at these places. The far left liberal scum of this city and others like them expect small biz owners to pay living wages to grown ass adults to flip burgers and make ham sandwiches while we the customers pay out the nose.
The far left liberal scum of this city and others like them expect small biz owners to pay living wages to grown ass adults to flip burgers and make ham sandwiches while we the customers pay out the nose.


Government needs revenue.
They know where the money lies.

Money lies in banks by hard working Americans that have been saving
for 40,50,60 and 70 years and in Social Security deposits and Pensions payments.

They want it , can't get to it, but you can as a result of their government sponsored inflation.

Underhanded look there not here tactic.

Taxation without Representation.

Remember to vote and

Save America.
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Old 07-09-2023, 04:55 AM
 
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That's plenty livable. I live a great life on less.
even in the hoods the household incomes are higher then 37.440 .

you and i have a very different view on living on 38k in nyc and having a great life on it
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Old 07-09-2023, 05:30 AM
 
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This only works if the wage is sufficient enough to make them ineligible for welfare programs. If their wage is boosted and they're still eligible for welfare programs, it simply just another redistribution (aka welfare) program.
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Old 07-09-2023, 05:33 AM
 
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even in the hoods the household incomes are higher then 37.440 .

you and i have a very different view on living on 38k in nyc and having a great life on it
One's entire QOL almost virtually depends on housing costs in NYC as they're (far and away) the largest expense. One can make $40K and have more disposable income than someone making $100K if their rent is substantially lower (on a percentage basis).

There are a lot of losers not only surviving but thriving in this city because all of their base needs are heavily subsidized.

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