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that area of harlem seems fine to me. no real threat of danger other than a strung-our junkie remnant of the '80s walking around once in a while.
personally i'd prefer the 2/3 trains over the B/C trains for 2 reasons:
one, the B/C stop at 110th and frederick douglass, and thats local. the 2/3 are express at lenox, and the other reason is that the 110th street stop on the B/C always has a bum in it (at least the times i've been there). i'd rather take the 2/3 to 110 and walk the block over and block up from lenox.
i had a friend who used to live in a building on lenox ave and 111. the public areas of the building were a little dirty, but her apartment was huge. this was last year when i visited. neighborhood looked ok to me.
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im a little offended. Harlem is not some jungle full of animals just waiting to attack you. You go through harlem and u see white couples right in the mix. And im talking like 125th, 135th, upper harlem. Nobody is going to bother you. U see white woman walking down blocks, solo like its nothing
.....Definitely we would respect our neighbors (and we don't mean to change the area), but just curious if we would be viewed as outsiders
........I ride a bike every night (a road bike with all the irritating spandex), and I don't want to be the jerk in the middle of the area, carrying my nice bike down the stoop to take a ride. It's a fairly "white" and "elitist" sport, I confess, but I enjoy it.
1. Once you're paying rent/living the NH is just as yours as it is the next person's . You don't have to suck up to anyone and as a matter of fact, if you're perceived as going out of your way to "respect" your neighbors, that gesture might backfire. Say hello to people you think are "nice" and if people are mean, just middle finger them mentally and keep walking.
Never walk around with your head down or look "scared" because that is exactly what can attract "taunts".
2. I'm an avid rider myself and I've seen riders in the middle of the so called hood on webster avenue, tremont, Brook etc... without a soul bothering them. Just live.... and life will follow
3. you're not the one raising the prices of the properties it's real estate/landlords. You know, the ones responsible for SOHA aka South Harlem..... I'll like to find that person and drop them off on saratoga on a saturday night in the summer time and let destiny be fulfilled...
KONY--didn't mean to offend you. I am asking because of the wealth of conflicting information that's out there. Everyone has an opinion of Harlem, and frankly I'm just not sure that half the information I get comes from people who don't live there (and that's the problem--the information is either "it's great" or "it's awful"). Seems like people on this board (I've been reading posts here on and off for awhile) are a bit more accurate when describing different neighborhoods or areas than, say, the people on craigslist. So I figured I'd ask.
im a little offended. Harlem is not some jungle full of animals just waiting to attack you. You go through harlem and u see white couples right in the mix. And im talking like 125th, 135th, upper harlem. Nobody is going to bother you. U see white woman walking down blocks, solo like its nothing
I wish this were true. My husband and I used to live in Harlem. He's a white guy and was occasionally hassled for "trying to take over the neighborhood."
However, the advice I gave about the subway station is the same advice I would give to anyone coming home late at night to a station that is not in a 24-hour area. I would be just as careful getting off the N/R at 28th st in Manhattan at 2am because it's a deserted business district. If the OP said his wife would be using the 125th ABCD stop, there would be no problem. That Popeye's on the corner is always jumping and as a women alone you have to know where your safety spots are. It's simple street smarts.
Thanks UpsonDowns. We just set up our lease signing. We're in.
My wife (and I) will actually be using the 110th 2/3 stop or (sometimes) the 110 B/C stop. So far the people have been really nice and accommodating. I'm looking forward to it. Definitely not interested in "taking over" at all.
I am glad to see that you found a place that you liked. And, I am not an expert on Harlem, but I have never noticed anything too bad in that area in recent years, though I don't live there. And, I don't think you're elitist at all with your bicycle, and it would not hurt the city to have that trend be started in more neighborhoods.
Thanks UpsonDowns. We just set up our lease signing. We're in.
My wife (and I) will actually be using the 110th 2/3 stop or (sometimes) the 110 B/C stop. So far the people have been really nice and accommodating. I'm looking forward to it. Definitely not interested in "taking over" at all.
The 2/3 is the best most reliable subway IMO, it is great to live near it. The 110th station is fine.
There are two markets that will be near you one is on 110th and CPW and the other is on Lenox and 112th, I used the Lenox one b/c its closer to me but there are usually some not so fun people hanging out in front of the liquor store next to it, so your wife might like the CPW one, it is a lot nicer.
The Harlem meer is a gorgeous part of central park, you should check it out.
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