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Old 03-24-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Soundview is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not even close. The area of western Soundview, by Hunts Point, is terrible. But not any worst than Hunts Point, Mott Haven, Morrisania etc........... However, the eastern part of Soundview is really nice. So it can never get the title "worst neighborhood" from me.
Describe Soundview in the Bronx?

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Old 03-24-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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I don't disagree with the map...I QUESTION where they got their information from...you should too. The scores do not look spot on to me, and when you test the website and put in MUCH better neighborhoods either in NYC, or around the country, you will note that there are many that come back with higher crime rates than the Bronx!!! I am still waiting for you to tell me whether you KNOW where they get their data and how it is compiled....I know where the NYC Crime stats come from...but you don't believe those...but why would you.....they show crime is going down..and that can't be right.....huh?
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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I don't disagree with the map...I QUESTION where they got their information from...you should too. The scores do not look spot on to me, and when you test the website and put in MUCH better neighborhoods either in NYC, or around the country, you will note that there are many that come back with higher crime rates than the Bronx!!! I am still waiting for you to tell me whether you KNOW where they get their data and how it is compiled....I know where the NYC Crime stats come from...but you don't believe those...but why would you.....they show crime is going down..and that can't be right.....huh?
The Bronx is not the worst county in the country in terms of crime. There are alot of counties that are worse. That is why you have other neighborhoods that come out worse. For example, Buffalo and Syracuse in Upstate have much more crime than NYC. But when I look at the city, and compare sections of the city to other sections, the crime ratings are accurate. I can only do this with NYC because it is what I am much more familiar with. We all knew that Morrisania had terrible parts to it. Furthermore, we knew Riverdale had the safest hoods.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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Agreed..but the website is by particular neighborhoods..and it does not work when you put in other neighborhoods. If you were more familiar with communities outside of the Bronx, you would have a better concept of their relative crime as compared to the Bronx/neighborhoods in the Bronx. The website is suspect.. I want to know WHERE/HOW they get their data...everyone should ask that question before lending any credibility to the website...but seems that nobody has that answer.

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Old 03-24-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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For example, Buffalo and Syracuse in Upstate have much more crime than NYC.
I am very eager to see what data you have for this statement. If you're using this "data" as your source, you should find another. As much you as may like the Neighborhood Scout site, it's not reliable. I've put in Skaneateles, NY and Cazenovia, NY - two lakefront villages well known across the country for being peaceful, picturesque, and very expensive - and they're rated at a 20 and 34. There are *NO* surrounding areas that would bring their stats down like that... it's nothing but quiet, rolling countryside. Their data cannot be based upon fact.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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I am very eager to see what data you have for this statement. If you're using this "data" as your source, you should find another. As much you as may like the Neighborhood Scout site, it's not reliable. I've put in Skaneateles, NY and Cazenovia, NY - two lakefront villages well known across the country for being peaceful, picturesque, and very expensive - and they're rated at a 20 and 34. There are *NO* surrounding areas that would bring their stats down like that... it's nothing but quiet, rolling countryside. Their data cannot be based upon fact.
Umm it is a well know fact that Buffalo is more dangerous than NYC. Buffalo is one of the most dangerous cities in the country. Just look at any top ten list.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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Thanks proulxfamily..as I stated..when you input the data from other areas outside of NYC it makes no sense..which is why I am questioning where/how they get their data. Clearly there is something wrong...so as a result I cannot lend any credibility to this website...and others should not either. And why should we when we have ACTUAL NYC Crime stats to rely on...I would use the NYC Crime stats as a FAR BETTER crime gauge than this random website....but hey...that's just me!
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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Umm it is a well know fact that Buffalo is more dangerous than NYC. Buffalo is one of the most dangerous cities in the country. Just look at any top ten list.
You also included Syracuse in your "well known fact." Do you have the data to support that? I'm not a fan of Buffalo so there's no need to look that up, if you don't want to, but I am partial to my hometown of Syracuse. So yeah, I take offense when someone tells me that it's more dangerous than NYC. I live here- I used to visit the Bronx twice a month to visit an old boyfriend and his mother on Fordham Hill Oval - and I just don't see how your assertion is true.

And "ummmm, it is a well known fact" isn't a source.
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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I live in President Street between PPW and 8th Ave in Brooklyn. The score for this area is 82/100. The shaded region seems to indicate that this includes everything from Union St to 3rd St between PPW and 8th Ave. This seems a fairly good reflection of the area. I feel safe around here I think its pretty spot on.
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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You also included Syracuse in your "well known fact." Do you have the data to support that? I'm not a fan of Buffalo so there's no need to look that up, if you don't want to, but I am partial to my hometown of Syracuse. So yeah, I take offense when someone tells me that it's more dangerous than NYC. I live here- I used to visit the Bronx twice a month to visit an old boyfriend and his mother on Fordham Hill Oval - and I just don't see how your assertion is true.

And "ummmm, it is a well known fact" isn't a source.
sigh. Fine. You want your source.
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Im appalled that you never heard of Buffalo's terrible crime reputation. It's up there with Cleveland. Syracuse also has more crime than NYC.

You do know the Fordham Hill Ovals aren't that bad. The area is shot, but the Ovals are very safe.

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