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I just heard the news about the new Jr. gun bans. It's amazing that a part of the United States can be so draconian. Citizens of New York, you have my sympaties, and for your sakes, I hope violent crime doesn't go through the roof.
Let me know if you want a place to ship your magazines or semi-autos.
It's not really draconian. Even after passing this law, we can still go to a gun store, buy a gun, and be back home in an hour.
For the people acting like their rights are being trampled, I can introduce you to some people who lived through Jim Crow laws to show you what real rights violations are. This is a minor pain the arse and nothing more. It's not fun and will not enjoy having to turn in my magazines and buy new ones, but let's not make this into some huge violation of our rights. We can still get guns.
If you are concerned about protecting your family, you still have your guns. The chances of somebody breaking into your house with a gun that has a large round capacity are slim to none so no need to be paranoid.
So in general its easy to get a rifle but harder to get a handgun? Im just wondering because I live in NJ and its ridiculous here. My husband is a former Marine and currently a cop who is allowed to carry off duty his weapon from work. Yet, for him to buy his OWN he has to go through the retarded background check, fingerprinting, permits, registration nonsense meanwhile he has a gun with him 24/7 from work
His gun would be "on his badge" in NY according to my daughter's friend ( a police Lieutenant up in WNY) and my cousin ( a retired NYPD officer). I guess if he was not in a PD here, he'd have to apply for a permit -- but with Cuomo? Who knows what will happen.
Just saw your husband is a NYPD officer -- in most of NYS, he'd carry "on badge" -- remember, only NYC has totally insane laws. Or did, up to this week.
If you are concerned about protecting your family, you still have your guns. The chances of somebody breaking into your house with a gun that has a large round capacity are slim to none so no need to be paranoid.
Dude, you realize the criminals still have access to full automatic weapons with high capacity magazines? You see, criminals don't really respect the law all that much.
Dude, you realize the criminals still have access to full automatic weapons with high capacity magazines? You see, criminals don't really respect the law all that much.
DUDE! You realize criminals still have access to 12 year old prostitutes! Criminals don't respect the law all that much
However, the solution is not to toss out laws against child prostitution.
DUDE! You realize criminals still have access to 12 year old prostitutes! Criminals don't respect the law all that much
However, the solution is not to toss out laws against child prostitution.
That argument dosen't hold any weight. It's a argument you make when you don't have anything else to say. 12 year old prostitutes aren't something normal, law abiding citizens are interested in. Good citizens are still interested in owning guns, however they make is so much tougher for people to do it legally, while it is as easy as ever to buy illegal guns.
DUDE! You realize criminals still have access to 12 year old prostitutes! Criminals don't respect the law all that much
However, the solution is not to toss out laws against child prostitution.
Until someone threatens to shoot you with a child prostitute, what you just said has absolutely no relationship to reality. You're talking about outlawing a behavior that someone forces on a non-consenting adult. I'm talking about making a tool of defense illegal, defense against those who do not respect the law, and who will likely continue to have a more powerful tool to attack you with.
So let me just translate what you just said:
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Originally Posted by TheITGuy
DUDE! You realize I have absolutely no way to counter your argument so I have to distract you! Criminals don't respect the law all that much
However, the solution is not for me to think of anything because I am incapable of it.
I'm a gun advocate and owner, but I hate the catchy NRA approved lines most of us use. Point being, don't rag on the guy who mentioned 12 year old prostitutes if you've ever said "well then forks make fat people", "alcohol causes DWI," "what's next knives?," or any other NRA drivel.
I'm a gun advocate and owner, but I hate the catchy NRA approved lines most of us use. Point being, don't rag on the guy who mentioned 12 year old prostitutes if you've ever said "well then forks make fat people", "alcohol causes DWI," "what's next knives?," or any other NRA drivel.
This isn't about approved NRA lines, this is about someone trying to undermine a logical argument with a logical fallacy designed 100% to simply disgust people.
The law against 12 year old prostitutes is designed to protect the rights of minors and make sure they aren't taken away. Gun "control" laws are NOT designed to protect the rights of anyone: they are designed to take the right to bear arms and protect oneself and one's family AWAY. The notion that it's supposed to protect people from being killed by a gun is also a logical fallacy, because by definition the only people one would be protected from being killed by are law-abiding citizens...who, if they abide by the law, aren't going to kill someone anyway. Unless if course someone assaults them or invades their home, which would make the invader someone who doesn't respect the law, which also means said lawbreaker likely to have an illegal weapon anyway rather than follow the new gun control laws.
You know, the problem with all these laws that people pass is that those darn lawbreakers just keep refusing to abide by them. Maybe we should make breaking the law against the law.
Mind you this is from someone who approves of background checks, mandatory gun safety courses, and consequences for not storing guns safely. All of which codifies the gun owner's individual responsibilities under the law while still not infringing on their Second Amendment rights or their right to protect their family.
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