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Old 12-02-2023, 06:05 PM
 
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There was another large storm, either last year or the year before, too. Thirty people died in one of them. You try to make it like it's no big thing. A foot of snow can criple a city. Six feet is a disaster, and it's not that uncommon in western NY. Of course some people love the snow for skiing and snowmobiling too. I have a couple different friends that have built places in the north country.
No, I'm just stating why there was a big difference between the Buffalo measurement and the other cities. If anything, I my point was that too much snow fell on the city/parts of the area within a short period of time. So, if anything, that shows that snow can fall too fast even for areas that have the equipment to remove snow. With that said, what occurred last year is actually rare in terms of the volume of snow in a short period of time and the article I posted illustrated that.

Again, the portion of the Buffalo area south of the city/the Southtowns get more snowfall on average, which is similar to the Syracuse area in regards to the places to the north. Both are due to the proximity to the Lake Erie and Lake Ontario snowbelts.
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Old 12-03-2023, 09:09 AM
 
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No, I'm just stating why there was a big difference between the Buffalo measurement and the other cities. If anything, I my point was that too much snow fell on the city/parts of the area within a short period of time. So, if anything, that shows that snow can fall too fast even for areas that have the equipment to remove snow. With that said, what occurred last year is actually rare in terms of the volume of snow in a short period of time and the article I posted illustrated that.

Again, the portion of the Buffalo area south of the city/the Southtowns get more snowfall on average, which is similar to the Syracuse area in regards to the places to the north. Both are due to the proximity to the Lake Erie and Lake Ontario snowbelts.
This website is called city DATA. Snowfall, be it 1" or 100" are added to the tally. It couldn't be more simple. A third grader would understand. Erie county is located in a snowbelt region. Warmer weather, preventing Lake Erie from freezing only increases the possibility for future major storms. Just look at Tug Hill, and those places east of Lake Ontario, which doesn't freeze over, and you have a view of future S. Erie winter forecasts.
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Old 12-03-2023, 09:55 AM
 
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Warmer weather, preventing Lake Erie from freezing only increases the possibility for future major storms. Just look at Tug Hill, and those places east of Lake Ontario, which doesn't freeze over, and you have a view of future S. Erie winter forecasts.
How far east would be impacted by this? How common or uncommon is it for Rochester and Finger Lakes down to Corning to get lake effect snow from Lake Erie? Or would the impact of what you described be pretty limited to the areas south of Buffalo that are much closer to Lake Erie?
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Old 12-03-2023, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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From AAA, the Golden Snowball contest last year.

Buffalo 133.6"
Syracuse 65.6"
Binghamton 61.5"
Albany 55.0"
Rochester 50.4"

What winter season are those figures from? Because Albany didn't get no 55" this past winter. I live only 5 miles north of Albany, so whatever they get, we get.
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Old 12-03-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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This website is called city DATA. Snowfall, be it 1" or 100" are added to the tally. It couldn't be more simple. A third grader would understand. Erie county is located in a snowbelt region. Warmer weather, preventing Lake Erie from freezing only increases the possibility for future major storms. Just look at Tug Hill, and those places east of Lake Ontario, which doesn't freeze over, and you have a view of future S. Erie winter forecasts.
You are actually just proving my point, as I just said this in the previous post.

@Tsitsipas, they may get the tail end of Lake Effect, but you can get the tail end of Nor’easters well into Upstate NY. Again, the Southern Tier may also get a little bit from Alberta Clippers from the north. So, you can get multiple types of snow storms.

Also, you may be interested in this: https://www.corningfingerlakes.com/s...-finger-lakes/

@ContraPagan, yeah, I’m glad you caught that, as the Albany area averages less snow than those areas further west at about 64 inches and I’m sure it has been a bit less than that in recent years(like areas further west).
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Old 12-04-2023, 06:29 AM
 
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What winter season are those figures from? Because Albany didn't get no 55" this past winter. I live only 5 miles north of Albany, so whatever they get, we get.
I live in Rochester, by the lake, and have hardly had a foot the past few years, so it can vary within the region.
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Old 12-04-2023, 06:33 AM
 
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How far east would be impacted by this? How common or uncommon is it for Rochester and Finger Lakes down to Corning to get lake effect snow from Lake Erie? Or would the impact of what you described be pretty limited to the areas south of Buffalo that are much closer to Lake Erie?
Usually weather off of Lake Erie hits south of Rochester. The weatherman sometime describes the weather north, or south of the thruway. South usually gets hit off of Lake Erie, if it's a strong storm.
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Old 12-04-2023, 09:05 AM
 
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I am just amazed at the lack of snow in the CNY and WNY area recently except for the Buffalo area (and Tug Hill). When I was a kid (1950s-60s), there was snow on the ground and huge snowbanks bracketing my driveway from December through February at least.

I have the photos from that time, although it wasn’t always as bad as the Blizzard of ‘66. Sometimes we had a February thaw but snow returned in March and even into April. My friends still living there say there is definitely a change.

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Old 12-04-2023, 11:06 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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There was another large storm, either last year or the year before, too. Thirty people died in one of them. You try to make it like it's no big thing. A foot of snow can criple a city. Six feet is a disaster, and it's not that uncommon in western NY. Of course some people love the snow for skiing and snowmobiling too. I have a couple different friends that have built places in the north country.
Last year there were two huge snowstorms in the Buffalo area: one around Thanksgiving, the other around Christmas. The first of the two only impacted southern and eastern suburbs, roughly the 'snow belt' part of the metro that ckh alluded to. I live in an area that was hit hard in that storm, though, to the tune of maybe six feet of snow. I 'evacuated' to the Falls for a few days, so I spared myself the fate of being trapped at home for that span of time. When December 20th or so rolled around and a 'once-in-a-generation' storm was being predicted for the weekend, I was skeptical it would even exceed in severity what we'd just dealt with a month prior. But, given wind, duration, and the fact that it hit the entire area, it did in fact outdo the prior month's storm in terms of overall impact. Forty-seven people died as a result of the storm, most of them city residents. On the morning of Friday, December 23rd, I managed to make it back to Niagara Falls maybe an hour or two before I once again would've been trapped at home for four days. The casino where I was staying shut down the gaming floor at 3 PM on Christmas Eve--that's as good of an indication as any of how serious things were. My cousin's friend who works in NF and lives in my town gave me a ride home Christmas night...we were in an F-350 pickup truck on loan from his work, and it's a good thing we were, as getting stuck on the road still wasn't out of the question, 60+ hours after the start of the storm. Surreal stuff.
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Old 12-15-2023, 12:07 PM
 
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Here is a related special about the Blizzard of '22 that occurred in the Buffalo area...

The Blizzard of '22: Lessons in Preparedness: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...-full-special-
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