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Old 02-03-2023, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I lost all interest at Scotty Kilmer. That idiot doesn’t know his backside from a hole in the ground. It is too bad, at one time Nissan was one of the best of Asian imports at the time. Thinking 80s and 90s. I nearly bought a 1996 Maxima years ago. It was a nice car at the time, which was the early to mid 2000s. Their little pickups were pretty darn decent too. It seemed to fall apart in the 2000s.
Yep, back in the days of the Stanza and 240SX. Nissan made good cars back then. I loved the 89-94 Maxima.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well, this thread title didn't age well...
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Old 02-03-2023, 12:23 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Well, this thread title didn't age well...

I put Paco on the Ignore List, but I'll take a wild guess that this was another silly post about another silly Scotty Kilmer video.

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Old 02-03-2023, 01:15 PM
 
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I put Paco on the Ignore List, but I'll take a wild guess that this was another silly post about another silly Scotty Kilmer video.
I said in the OP that it was the title of Scotty Kilmer video

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Here's Why 2022 Will Be Nissan's Last Year in Business This title of Scotty Kilmer's video is obviously chosen as an attention grabbing device.

But he highlights the fact that the 2021 Rogue's 2.5-liter four-cylinder that makes 182 hp has been replaced for 2022 with a turbocharged 1.5-liter three-cylinder engine that makes 201 horsepower. The Rogue's CVT transmission has also been revised and is said to aid acceleration and fuel economy.

Scotty says it is a huge mistake ...
An attention grabbing titles is obviously just an attention grabbing title. It's not a serious prediction! It is obvious that Scotty Kilmer is trying to get clicks, but behind the title he was predicting widespread consumer rejection of the Rogue with the modified engine because of fear of increased mainenance. In reality Rogue sales plummeted.

But you have to admit that Nissan's 5 year collapse in US sales which started well before the pandemic has been pretty spectacular.
  • 249,929 2022 Nissan Division cars drop of -62.9%
  • 674,425 2017 Nissan Division cars
    .
  • 432,802 2022 Nissan Division trucks drop of -43.5%
  • 765,624 2017 Nissan Division trucks
    .
  • 46,619 2022 Infiniti Division total drop of -69.6%
  • 153,415 2017 Infiniti Division total

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Old 02-03-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Northwest Houston
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I never understood the claims about Nissans CVT’s. My wife’s old rogue had over 130k miles and never had to go into the shop once.
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Old 02-22-2023, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Many people talk about the older Nissan CVTs having issues but the new generation Rogue has the G-series CVT.

They use the same chain style belt as the 10E/10J/10H 6-cyl CVT's, which never had the kind of problems we saw in the 10A/10D 4-cyl's. They're still a CVT and still entirely dependent on fluid quality like any CVT, but with good maintenance I expect them to go a long way without trouble.


Anyone else have information on the new CVT?
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Old 02-22-2023, 06:26 PM
 
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CVT longevity depends how you drive it. If you keep driving in stop and go traffic it will break much sooner than highway driving.
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Old 03-03-2023, 06:36 AM
 
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Here's Why 2022 Will Be Nissan's Last Year in Business[

This title of Scotty Kilmer's video is obviously chosen as an attention grabbing device.

But he highlights the fact that the 2021 Rogue's 2.5-liter four-cylinder that makes 182 hp has been replaced for 2022 with a turbocharged 1.5-liter three-cylinder engine that makes 201 horsepower. The Rogue's CVT transmission has also been revised and is said to aid acceleration and fuel economy.

Scotty says it is a huge mistake and will only increase rating by 1 mpg. He calls it a pointless engineering effort. He compares it with Ford's 1.5 liter engine in the Ford Escape.

Nissan is known for making mistakes where they cost a fortune to fix when they break! - Scotty Kilmer making one of his customary generalizations that he is famous for.

Just doing a fact check from EPA website shows an improvement of 3 mpg for city, and 2 mpg for highway. Which is pretty anemic, but more than the 1 mpg that Scotty cites in the video.

2022 Nissan Rogue FWD 1.5 L, 3 cyl, Automatic (AV-S8), Turbo, City MPG:30 | Highway MPG 37: mpg
2021 Nissan Rogue FWD 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (AV-S8) City MPG:27 Highway MPG:35

2021 first 9 months Nissan Truck Sales
234,647 Rogue
64,735 Kicks
39,287 Murano
38,059 Frontier
28,885 Pathfinder
22,772 Titan

Despite this slight disagreement in facts, I think Scotty has a point. You have a perfectly reliable 2.5 NA 4-cylinder engine, and you are switching to a complicated 1.5 liter turbocharged 3 cylinder engine.

He even mentions "the law of diminishing returns". Interestingly that same phrase was used in Trump's 2018 argument for freezing Obama's tightened CAFE requirements at the 2020 level for another 5 years.

2022 Mitsubishi Outlander (which is just a rebadged Nissan Rogue) retains the old engine
Scott Kilmer is clickbait.

I'll play that game.. I'll tag his channel in my videos for views.
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Old 03-03-2023, 01:15 PM
 
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Scott Kilmer is clickbait.
I deeply regret using Scotty Kilmer's video title for this thread. Kilmer used the obvious clickbait title to discuss the drop in sales of the Rogue with the new turbo-downsized engine from 285,602 in 2021 to 186,480 in 2022 (-34.7%).

A more sober title was used by other publications.

Has Nissan Peaked in the United States? by Desiree Homer January 21, 202
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Old 03-22-2024, 10:55 AM
 
Location: The South
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Here it is 3/22/24. I just drove by the local Nissan dealer and they were still in business.
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