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Old 05-15-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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Basically it's an office clerical work position. A woman my mother worked with at one point, called my mom telling her to encourage me to apply. So of course I did. My friend and I were talking, and I excitedly told her the good news. She asked me if any other positions were open, and I told her to check. She did and ended up applying for the same position as me. She claims she had already automatically applied because her resume is uploaded to the site (indeed.)The HR manager at the office emailed her and told her to fax her application. I hand delivered mine to the woman interviewing for the position (my mom's coworker.)

Now for a little background, I will have my Bachelor's in psychology next year, I'm not working at the moment. My friend has an Associate's in social work. My work experience is mainly retail, while my friend has office experience. She works as a server and has a part time job at city hall in my town. Now here's where the "issue" comes in. My friend in question just got a call back from the office, I haven't yet (given my lack of experience, I probably won't.) The HR manager is the one who grades the applications and decides who makes the cut for the testing/interviewing process. My mother's old coworker is just interviewing the ones the HR manager decides to pass. I'm feeling a little discouraged but I'm hoping a better opportunity will come along.

Another friend and I were talking about the situation. He thinks she has just as much of a right to apply as I do. I agreed with him. But another friend of mine thinks it was kind of "snaky" of her to apply for the same position and it would be messed up if she got the job that was "offered" to me. Like I said, I'd be disappointed, and there might be some awkwardness between us if she does get the job. I don't know, I'm feeling a lot of mixed emotions. I wished her luck, but I still can't help but feel a little disappointed. I don't think she's being "malicious" otherwise she wouldn't be telling me anything. That's what I'd like to think anyway.

How would you all feel?

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Old 05-15-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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Basically it's an office clerical work position. A woman my mother worked with at one point, called my mom telling her to encourage me to apply. So of course I did. My friend and I were talking, and I excitedly told her the good news. She asked me if any other positions were open, and I told her to check. She did and ended up applying for the same position as me. She claims she had already automatically applied because her resume is uploaded to the site (indeed.)The HR manager at the office emailed her and told her to fax her application. I hand delivered mine to the woman interviewing for the position (my mom's coworker.)

Now for a little background, I will have my Bachelor's in psychology next year, I'm not working at the moment. My friend has an Associate's in social work. My work experience is mainly retail, while my friend has office experience. She works as a server and has a part time job at city hall in my town. Now here's where the "issue" comes in. My friend in question just got a call back from the office, I haven't yet (given my lack of experience, I probably won't.) The HR manager is the one who grades the applications and decides who makes the cut for the testing/interviewing process. My mother's old coworker is just interviewing the ones the HR manager decides to pass. I'm feeling a little discouraged but I'm hoping a better opportunity will come along.

Another friend and I were talking about the situation. He thinks she has just as much of a right to apply as I do. I agreed with him. But another friend of mine thinks it was kind of "snaky" of her to apply for the same position and it would be messed up if she got the job that was offered to me. Like I said, I'd be disappointed, and there might be some awkwardness between us if she does get the job. I don't know, I'm feeling a lot of mixed emotions. I wished her luck, but I still can't help but feel a little disappointed. I don't think she's being "malicious" otherwise she wouldn't be telling me anything. That's what I'd like to think anyway.

How would you all feel?
I think it's a little underhanded. That's my opinion.

OTOH, the job sounds like generic administrative work in a corporate pit. So you have to question why you want the job in the first place instead getting work related to what you really want to do. That is also an opinion...
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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Office clerical works is a dime a dozen....the silver lining to every cloud , you might even find something better
In the future though, I would keep it to myself when talking to the competition
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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The most qualified person should get the job, don't you agree?

And she DIDN'T apply for the same job as you. Isn't that what you told us? Was that true?
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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I would not hold it against this friend for applying for the job. FWIW, this job was not offered to you. As you stated, you have to get past human resources before you would even be able to interview with your mom's friend.

But now that you know she is competition (job wise), you should not share with her any other opportunities that came along.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Basically it's an office clerical work position. A woman my mother worked with at one point, called my mom telling her to encourage me to apply. So of course I did. My friend and I were talking, and I excitedly told her the good news. She asked me if any other positions were open, and I told her to check. She did and ended up applying for the same position as me. She claims she had already automatically applied because her resume is uploaded to the site (indeed.)The HR manager at the office emailed her and told her to fax her application. I hand delivered mine to the woman interviewing for the position (my mom's coworker.)

Now for a little background, I will have my Bachelor's in psychology next year, I'm not working at the moment. My friend has an Associate's in social work. My work experience is mainly retail, while my friend has office experience. She works as a server and has a part time job at city hall in my town. Now here's where the "issue" comes in. My friend in question just got a call back from the office, I haven't yet (given my lack of experience, I probably won't.) The HR manager is the one who grades the applications and decides who makes the cut for the testing/interviewing process. My mother's old coworker is just interviewing the ones the HR manager decides to pass. I'm feeling a little discouraged but I'm hoping a better opportunity will come along.

Another friend and I were talking about the situation. He thinks she has just as much of a right to apply as I do. I agreed with him. But another friend of mine thinks it was kind of "snaky" of her to apply for the same position and it would be messed up if she got the job that was offered to me. Like I said, I'd be disappointed, and there might be some awkwardness between us if she does get the job. I don't know, I'm feeling a lot of mixed emotions. I wished her luck, but I still can't help but feel a little disappointed. I don't think she's being "malicious" otherwise she wouldn't be telling me anything. That's what I'd like to think anyway.

How would you all feel?
I think you have a mature take on the whole thing. If your friend hadn't applied, there'd be no guarantee you'd make the "interview" cut, anyway, given your lack of relevant experience. It's interesting, though, that the interviewer (your mom's colleague) thought you could make it to the interview stage. She might be wrong. We'll see. In any case, your friend's tossing her hat into the ring wouldn't affect your outcome, I don't think.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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I think it's a little underhanded. That's my opinion.

OTOH, the job sounds like generic administrative work in a corporate pit. So you have to question why you want the job in the first place instead getting work related to what you really want to do. That is also an opinion...
It's for convenience on my end.

Good benefits. (I'll be 26 next year, so I'd be on my own insurance wise.)
Good starting salary for me.
I think it would help me get my foot in the door in other places.
If I'm completely honest, psychology was not my dream area of study. It's interesting but that's about it. I wanted to major in Art, but we all know how dicey that is.

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Office clerical works is a dime a dozen....the silver lining to every cloud , you might even find something better
In the future though, I would keep it to myself when talking to the competition
I didn't really see her as competition. It was just friendly chat more than anything.

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The most qualified person should get the job, don't you agree?

And she DIDN'T apply for the same job as you. Isn't that what you told us? Was that true?
Yes I agree, the more qualified person should get the job. Like I said, she's not being malicious. The situation is just awkward, never dealt with it before. Just for clarification, I didn't tell her the EXACT position I applied for so she "unknowingly" applied for the same position.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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I think you have a mature take on the whole thing. If your friend hadn't applied, there'd be no guarantee you'd make the "interview" cut, anyway, given your lack of relevant experience. It's interesting, though, that the interviewer (your mom's colleague) thought you could make it to the interview stage. She might be wrong. We'll see. In any case, your friend's tossing her hat into the ring wouldn't affect your outcome, I don't think.
It seems like my mom's colleague thought she would have more "control" over the entire process than she actually does. The more I think about this, it was an obvious misunderstanding on my part. However, something in the back of my mind told it was "too good to be true." I knew it couldn't have been that simple.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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At the end of the day you got to look out for yourself first . Once you get the job then by all means send her resume to the hiring manager
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Basically it's an office clerical work position. A woman my mother worked with at one point, called my mom telling her to encourage me to apply.

But another friend of mine thinks it was kind of "snaky" of her to apply for the same position and it would be messed up if she got the job that was offered to me.

How would you all feel?
The job was not 'offered' to you though. You seem to be skipping over that important point. A person in the office encouraged you to apply and told your mother to have you apply. But no job offer was made to you.

It is sad and angering, though, that having told your friend about the opening that your friend went ahead and applied for a job that you wanted.
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