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Check out the op again. You may have miss understood it. Oh wait yes you have. Mr. Tillis has made the issue worse since 2010.
No misunderstanding at all. The OP thanked Tillis, McCrory & the NC Legislature, presumably for taking corrective action which the study he linked blamed on Beverly Perdue, Tom Tillis, and Mike Easley. Anyone who read the study's methodology would know this.
Looks like praise to me.
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Originally Posted by Francois
Gee thanks, McCrory, Tillis, and NC Legislature!
Or are you saying the OP posted that link without reading it first? Your choice. LOL
Reading comprehension. It is a great thing. LOL. A great line from a book I liked " Consider the source and move on"
"Progressive" = Insult the mental capacity of the messenger when you can't logically address the message. This isn't the first time in this topic this kind of response has been made. Of course you want to move on because the story you guys were hoping to spin, blew up in your face.
As I said earlier this topic is a fascinating example of partisan hypocrisy.
^ Sorry Waldo, but the logic is all around you, and you've been provided plenty of evidence in this thread that you're dead wrong. Your inability to admit that doesn't make you any less wrong.
Back to the topic, here's a good editorial article from today's Winston-Salem Journal written by Stuart Egan, a popular English teacher at West Forsyth High School (and a favorite teacher of both of my kids). As some of you may know, my wife is also a teacher, and I can tell you that her colleagues all feel the same way--the Republicans have to go if we are ever going to get education in this state back on track.
^ Sorry Waldo, but the logic is all around you, and you've been provided plenty of evidence in this thread that you're dead wrong....
Your opinion doesn't count as evidence. It's your opinion.
Op Posts an article that claims NC is dead last in teacher rankings.
But OP did not realize what data was being used. Automatically assumed GOP = BAD, Democrats = Good.
Study covered the 2003-2013 school years.
Failure is squarely on the head's of Kay Hagan, Beverly Perdue, Mike Easley who wrote the budgets during this period.
This is what that study said. It's there in black and white. There was no problem with you guys accepting that study as long as you thought it was the GOP's fault. But when it's discovered to have been caused by the policies of the state's now disgraced Democratic party, that acceptance immediately changes to falderal, distractions, insults, anything to keep you from admitting that it was caused by Hagan, Perdue, & Easley.
Your opinion doesn't count as evidence. It's your opinion.
Op Posts an article that claims NC is dead last in teacher rankings.
But OP did not realize what data was being used. Automatically assumed GOP = BAD, Democrats = Good.
Study covered the 2003-2013 school years.
Because Waldo ignores evidence that shows the decline didn't begin until 2009, he incorrectly thinks thefailure is squarely on the head's of Kay Hagan, Beverly Perdue, Mike Easley who wrote the budgets during this period.
After years of Republican-led government, study confirms that NC teachers went from the middle of the pack in 2009 to dead last now.
This is what that study said. It's there in black and white. There was no problem with you guys accepting that study as long as you thought it was the GOP's fault. But when it's discovered to have been caused by the policies of the state's now disgraced Democratic party, that acceptance immediately changes to falderal, distractions, insults, anything to keep you from admitting that it was caused by Hagan, Perdue, & Easley.
Political hypocrisy at it's finest.
You missed a couple of key points. It's okay...I added them for you.
You missed a couple of key points. It's okay...I added them for you.
I didn't miss anything. I stuck to the study posted as Proof of NC's dead last rankings at the hands of Kay Hagan, etc. I didn't post that information, nor did I start this topic. I only pointed out what the study really said.
If you think the study was wrong, then take it up with the OP. If you found something else that you want to talk about, then start a topic. It can't be more simple than that.
( I don't accept your partisan voodoo logic that basically says, it's nobody's fault. )
^ No, the study isn't wrong, and I never said it was. What's wrong is your interpretation that just because it uses data since 2003, the decline must have started then. It didn't start in 2003--it started during the recession in 2009 (after Kay Hagan had already left state government for the US Senate), and continued because the Pubs did not provide raises in the time since then. It can't be more simple than that.
End of discussion for me, as once again you've demonstrated your inability to accept undeniable facts when they're clearly laid out for you. And yet you accuse others of partisan blindness? Pot, meet kettle.
What's wrong is your interpretation that just because it uses data since 2003, the decline must have started then.....
I never said this.
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