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are student loans right now running 4%? Even if they are, do you realize that your $1,200 is the total annual interest on the $amount debt you provided? Not the monthly.
As to "what I would do", I'm easily found on record here as supporting the reinstatement of the masters degree stipend. I also believe in finding whatever way we can get the money from the "system" to the classroom. And I know very few people on "either side of the aisle" who don't agree with both of those.
And we also need to spend some more on K-12 education than we do. Unfortunately, this is the NC Forum, neither CLT nor RTP, and so those dollars might need to go first to more rural counties.
are student loans right now running 4%? Even if they are, do you realize that your $1,200 is the total annual interest on the $amount debt you provided? Not the monthly.
As to "what I would do", I'm easily found on record here as supporting the reinstatement of the masters degree stipend. I also believe in finding whatever way we can get the money from the "system" to the classroom. And I know very few people on "either side of the aisle" who don't agree with both of those.
And we also need to spend some more on K-12 education than we do. Unfortunately, this is the NC Forum, neither CLT nor RTP, and so those dollars might need to go first to more rural counties.
You are correct. Interest and principal monthly payment would be ~$650 a month, assuming a 10 year loan. Take home pay would be ~$2050 less the $650 ~30% of your take home pay, leaving you with $16800 income to spend on rent, car, gas, groceries.
I don't have student loans, but for those I know who do, their payments are low enough that I cannot believe they're on 10 year amortizations. Student loans is a much more far-ranging topic though. I'd be all for helping teachers pay theirs off, whether that's what the NC Teaching Fellows was doing or some new program.
Average teacher pay in NC is ~$47K. Average worker pay in NC is ~$43K. When the average worker makes more money and has summer's off, let me know. Then i'll start crying for those poor, poor teachers.
Average teacher pay in NC is ~$47K. Average worker pay in NC is ~$43K. When the average worker makes more money and has summer's off, let me know. Then i'll start crying for those poor, poor teachers.
"Average worker pay" compared to teachers is irrelevant. "Average worker" includes those who aren't high school graduates, high school graduates, associates degrees, etc. Whats the average salary for non-teacher college graduates (and the average for those with graduate degrees, since many teachers have those)? That would be an appropriate comparison.
Average teacher pay in NC is ~$47K. Average worker pay in NC is ~$43K. When the average worker makes more money and has summer's off, let me know. Then i'll start crying for those poor, poor teachers.
Shush. You're not supposed to mention that. Must be nice to have Summers off. Don't forget the early retirement. Pretty cushy in reality.
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Shush. You're not supposed to mention that. Must be nice to have Summers off. Don't forget the early retirement. Pretty cushy in reality.
I was talking with a woman in the grocery store yesterday. She was telling me about one of her friends, who has taught for years. This year she has 26 kids. 2 of those children are low-functioning Downes-syndrome students who are not toilet-trained but are mainstreamed at their parents insistance. There is no teaching assistant in the room & no aides assigned to the students. Plus at the end of the year the Downes syndrome students will take the same test & the results will be held against the teacher.
The woman is over 40 so getting a different job is not a good prospect.
Explain to me what part of this is a cushy deal. No short flip quip is sufficient. Tell me what part of that scenario is a cushy deal.
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Average teacher pay in NC is ~$47K. Average worker pay in NC is ~$43K. When the average worker makes more money and has summer's off, let me know. Then i'll start crying for those poor, poor teachers.
What percent of the average workers have less than a bachelor's degree? 0% of public school teachers have less than a bachelor's degree.
That old quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt," seems awfully applicable to this discussion.
Anyone who wonders why we have so many issues in this state regarding both student performance and teacher retention need look no further than this very thread. Honestly, how many canards can some of you pack into a single conversation?
We are talking about a career whose minimum level of education is a Bachelor's (soon to be a Master's the way systems are hiring). This is a professional career whose raison d'être is the education of our most valuable resource: children. And your response is they get summers off? That they are paid marginally more than the average worker in North Carolina? I am sure next you will tell us that all teachers finish their day at three.
What an absolute disgrace.
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