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Old 07-12-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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"Recordings from law enforcement body and dashboard cameras will not be considered public records in North Carolina under a law signed Monday by Gov. Pat McCrory."

Why bother with cams at all if the recordings are not available to news sources, defendants, victims, etc.

That pretty much makes it clear that you better have a dash cam, action camera or phone camera recording when you are approached by the police.

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Old 07-12-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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I have to agree with you. I like McCrory, but he dropped the ball on this one. Just because other cities and states do it this way, doesn't mean we have to.


Would it really impede investigations and trials to make video of an event public?
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Keep in mind, this isn't just about dash cams, it's also about body cameras worn by the police. If you happen to be visited by the police at your private residence, are you telling me that you'd be OK with your private residence and everything therein being broadcast for the world to see?
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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Keep in mind, this isn't just about dash cams, it's also about body cameras worn by the police. If you happen to be visited by the police at your private residence, are you telling me that you'd be OK with your private residence and everything therein being broadcast for the world to see?
First, you have a constitutional right not to speak with the police and the police have no right to enter your home without a warrant. If they don’t have a warrant, you don’t have to talk to them or open the door.

So much for filming.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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Keep in mind, this isn't just about dash cams, it's also about body cameras worn by the police. If you happen to be visited by the police at your private residence, are you telling me that you'd be OK with your private residence and everything therein being broadcast for the world to see?
You've got a point. Personally, I'm glad there isn't a video of me being arrested online. Especially since the charges were dropped...
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Might as well not spend the money on the cameras if the footage will only be used as Christmas party gag reels for law enforcement. Nice nut punch on that protester Lieutenant, more eggnog?
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Another failure by McCory. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Might as well not spend the money on the cameras if the footage will only be used as Christmas party gag reels for law enforcement. Nice nut punch on that protester Lieutenant, more eggnog?
The footage is still available to prosecutors to use at trial against criminals and bad cops. Isn't that the entire point of the cameras?


We don't want to violate privacy by dumping every video of police interaction on the internet. Not all of us are at our best when the po-po comes around.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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The footage is still available to prosecutors to use at trial against criminals and bad cops. Isn't that the entire point of the cameras?


We don't want to violate privacy by dumping every video of police interaction on the internet. Not all of us are at our best when the po-po comes around.
Hardly the model of transparency when only law enforcement and the district attorneys have access. Knowing this, the public should have their own cameras running all the time during any encounter with the police because if there are conflicting stories as to what happened, the news outlets will not have access to the footage from law enforcement or will have to go to court to get it, which could be a timely procedure and the only narrative of incident will come from law enforcement. Leaving the decision about whether to release the videos up to a single agency will no doubt prove to be problematic.

Anyway why would want anyone who is filmed by police body cameras T have to spend time and money to go to court in order to see that footage?
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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I really think that he may be the biggest idiot on planet earth.
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