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Old 01-27-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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One foot is not going to put South Florida out of business but 4 feet will be VERY difficult to manage, and 8 feet, as some models suggest is the worse case scenario, would be devastating. These people will need some place to go and It think that NC would get more than its fare share if the more dire predictions start to show signs of being possible. It won't take until the end of the Century for people to start fleeing; it will happen in a few decades if the sea shows signs of these predictions. I'm not being chicken little either. I am literally living next to a huge infrastructure project where the city is raising an entire neighborhood's infrastructure including roads, sidewalks and seawalls by 3 feet while installing new pumping stations that prevent water from backing up into the streets during high tides.
And half the Florida legislature thinks global warming is a myth!
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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And half the Florida legislature thinks global warming is a myth!
Guess which half?
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Old 01-30-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Any predict VA catching up with NC and GA? Politically, VA is crafting a very progressive image of itself. I'm sure this makes the state's image look better.
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Any predict VA catching up with NC and GA? Politically, VA is crafting a very progressive image of itself. I'm sure this makes the state's image look better.
Nah. Unlike GA and NC, the most prosperous part of VA with the most jobs is also quite expensive. Metro Atlanta, Charlotte, and the Triangle are all still pretty affordable for the most part and thus can sustain higher growth rates.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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There's absolutely no way to tell what could happen 80+ years into the future; it's futile trying to make a prediction that far out. And there are really no drastic climate differences between most of NC and GA.
History can be examined and these states have 200 years of history. Georgia has one large city, NC has 2. GA has less shoreline and less significant mountains which are why people will choose NC over GA. NC probably has better schools as well. NC has more military service and is more centrally located to northern states. If you take many international flights ATL is better.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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Florida is a huge wildcard if massive sea level rise predictions come to pass this century.
Unlike almost every coastal state, NC doesn't have a large metro on the coast. Yes, I know, Wilmington....but it's not large and the city itself is actually 30 feet above sea level.
NC's majority population and its growth centers are significantly inland and that could position the state well for refugee style growth from other states if the sea rises only 8-10 feet as projected. This sort of change would wipe out significant portions of coastal Florida and other states and leave millions homeless (me included but I'll be dead).
Georgia has a similar situation to NC with Atlanta being 1000 ft above sea level.
I agree, if sea level rising a few feet doesn't make FL less desirable the hurricanes might. All of Florida except Orlando is on the shore. The equator seems to be moving north as well which would make NC a warm alternative.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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History can be examined and these states have 200 years of history.
And history is just that...history. Using that argument, the South would have never become more populous than the North.

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Georgia has one large city, NC has 2. GA has less shoreline and less significant mountains which are why people will choose NC over GA.
What does that have to do with anything? The overwhelming majority of the growth in both states is happening inland--within the Piedmont region. GA has less shoreline and less significant mountains than VA but more people are moving to GA so that argument obviously doesn't hold.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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And history is just that...history. Using that argument, the South would have never become more populous than the North.



What does that have to do with anything? The overwhelming majority of the growth in both states is happening inland--within the Piedmont region. GA has less shoreline and less significant mountains than VA but more people are moving to GA so that argument obviously doesn't hold.
For mountain living you can hardly compare GA or VA to NC. If you're a retired couple who wants the best mountain ridge home on the east coast you look no further than NC. If you want to truly get away to the ocean you go to the remote outer banks, not Savanna or Virginia Beach. History shows NC developed 2 large towns that are still quickly growing. VA has only Richmond which sucks unless you include nova which isn't what we're talking about.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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For mountain living you can hardly compare GA or VA to NC. If you're a retired couple who wants the best mountain ridge home on the east coast you look no further than NC. If you want to truly get away to the ocean you go to the remote outer banks, not Savanna or Virginia Beach. History shows NC developed 2 large towns that are still quickly growing. VA has only Richmond which sucks unless you include nova which isn't what we're talking about.
And again, those mountain towns and remote beach communities are not driving the growth in any of these states--not even close.

I really don't know how else to spell this out. If you think the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Outer Banks are what will propel NC over GA, then you're literally probably the only person who thinks that. Plus the towns in those areas don't even want rapid growth, and with good reason.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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And again, those mountain towns and remote beach communities are not driving the growth in any of these states--not even close.

I really don't know how else to spell this out. If you think the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Outer Banks are what will propel NC over GA, then you're literally probably the only person who thinks that. Plus the towns in those areas don't even want rapid growth, and with good reason.
I think that the key to Georgia's growth is going to be greater Atlanta's ability to manage its growth and maintain and/or improve quality of life. If two current realities continue to be true in the future: 1) metro areas continue to sprawl outward and 2) people continue to grow in their desire for urban and walkable experiences, single core metros like Atlanta are going to have to become creative in providing those experiences in more places throughout their metros.
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