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[quote=PDD;47156904]It's pretty well established that the NRA and gun manufacturers associations own the Republicans in office. [quote]
Urban legend such as this is a (if not, 'the') supreme reason opponents to constitutional carry are losing in one state after another.
In fact, such hysterical assertions are just as false today as they were when the same argument was rolled out as each state adopted laws allowing concealed carry, during the late 80's through the 90's.
As long as opponents to constitutional carry persist in retreading falsehoods their opposition shall remain INeffective. For that, I am eternally grateful!
Charging people for the right to own a gun disproportionately discriminates against the poor. Poor people may not have the funds to purchase the gun AND pay the fees. Your RIGHTS should not be tied to being able to afford them.
570,000 NC CCW permit holders X $75 renewal fee every five years = $42,750,000 in permit fees removed from the states coffers? A lot of that money goes towards hunter education, operating wildlife shooting ranges, maintaining state game lands.
Hundreds of certified gun safety instructors will lose income because safety training will not be required to concealed carry a weapon.
18 YO will be allowed to now carry concealed weapons instead of waiting to 21 ( we all know how young people handle automobiles so now lets give then guns).
Anybody who has ever been to a gun range knows that half the shooters have to be constantly reminded by range officers about gun safety and many of these have already been thru safety courses.
There is absolutely no financial advantage for republicans to push thru this new law except maybe a little help with outside campaign financing.
It's pretty well established that the NRA and gun manufacturers associations own the Republicans in office.
I suggest that those who are for this new law are probably gun owners who could not qualify for a legal permit but now you can carry, that's a brilliant idea.
BTW I am a legal carry permit holder and the few guns I do own were purchased from legal gun shops.
See that's where there are problems... Wake County says you have to be 18 years old in order to get a pistol permit. While in Guilford county you have to be 21, so that's what I was talking about how different counties have different rules.
So you want to discriminate against someone who is 18years old and in your eyes not mature enough to carry a pistol. All the while when I was 18/19 I was in the Marines fighting with weapons in Afghanistan.
See that's where there are problems... Wake County says you have to be 18 years old in order to get a pistol permit. While in Guilford county you have to be 21, so that's what I was talking about how different counties have different rules.
So you want to discriminate against someone who is 18years old and in your eyes not mature enough to carry a pistol. All the while when I was 18/19 I was in the Marines fighting with weapons in Afghanistan.
I think 21 is a good age. Never did combat but ex-military. At 18 years old in Fort Benning we trained for 16 weeks and anybody that completes basic training should receive a waiver. Of course, like the drinking age, it'll get abused but 21 is a good target. It's not a matter of individual maturity but what societal standards deem maturity. There's a reason 21 become the legal drinking age although there are 1000s of teens that drink without issue. There are also 30+ year olds I'd never trust with a weapon, period.
[quote=Lakefront16;47159143][quote=PDD;47156904]It's pretty well established that the NRA and gun manufacturers associations own the Republicans in office.
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Urban legend such as this is a (if not, 'the') supreme reason opponents to constitutional carry are losing in one state after another.
In fact, such hysterical assertions are just as false today as they were when the same argument was rolled out as each state adopted laws allowing concealed carry, during the late 80's through the 90's.
As long as opponents to constitutional carry persist in retreading falsehoods their opposition shall remain INeffective. For that, I am eternally grateful!
Lol, there is a militia somewhere in Montana a calling. I don't know who we should fear more, a crazy ass American hating terrorist or a hearsay constitutional wacko who believes their interpretation of the constitution is manna from heaven bestowed by the Almighty....good grief, equally dangerous.
It's pretty well established that the NRA and gun manufacturers associations own the Republicans in office.
Lol, there is a militia somewhere in Montana a calling. I don't know who we should fear more, a crazy ass American hating terrorist or a hearsay constitutional wacko who believes their interpretation of the constitution is manna from heaven bestowed by the Almighty....good grief, equally dangerous.
Can someone tell me why the state of Vermont, which has NEVER had a permit requirement, allows concealed and open carry of handguns for any law abiding citizen 16 years or older, somehow has not had all the horrible things happen that the naysayers think will happen? And why would it happen in NC or anywhere else for that matter?
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