My husband was assaulted last night (income, moving to, activities)

[Riverside4ever]

Originally Posted by Trucker7

If you can afford a $500 rent, then you can afford a $500 mortgage payment. And with a fixed loan, that payment will stay at $500 for the next 30 years, whereas your rent will keep going up. In the long run, buying a house is more affordable than renting. There are plenty of homes in Scranton/WB in the $50-$75K range that will result in a $500 or less monthly payment, even after taxes and insurance are added to it.

I agree .. 100% Renting is throwing money away ..

Ive seen houses for $40k Hell even buy a trailer and a small parcel of land ... You can get a trailer for a song and dance ,, some are even free if you move em,,,

If it was me I would just stay there .. put up camera's get a ballistic vest and chase them out .. Fight fire with fire ... Dont be stupid though and bring a knife to a gunfight ..

[J5K5LY]

Originally Posted by Woof

Most of the "slum" type of housing is NOT section 8, which has certain minimal standards of habitability - for example the number of occupants is limited, the plumbing has to work, no peeling paint, hygienic conditions etc. Also it takes years of waiting on a list to get, and there are thorough mandatory background checks. I'm pretty sure that any drug dealing convictions result in eviction IF someone makes a formal complaint to the landlord.

Section 8 is generally speaking a good and worthy program, meant mostly for the disabled, handicapped, and single moms. The single parents are probably the biggest problem because of their boyfriends and teen children, but ultimately those kids have to be raised somewhere.

Most of the slummy stuff is privately owned and rented, no subsidies, largely because they wouldn't be able to pass the sec 8 inspections. Probably the house across the street rents privately even if the inhabitants are getting welfare of some other kind.

I agree that the section 8 program was designed to help people out that are disabled or have other issues where the income is very low. However, I can tell you from experience, that PCP became filled with section 8 housing and the people in those homes were trash. The women would come from NY slums and get the housing and welfare benefits and any other freebies available. Then the boyfriends would follow, with drugs, Lincoln SUV's, bad mouths, attitude, pit bulls, threatening behavior, etc. I would see the women on line at the local stores with 6 kids, paying with food stamps while they are dressed to the nines with tons of gold jewelry and see them get into brand new SUV's to go back to the section 8 house in PCP. These houses were dumps, not maintained and eyesores. I don't think the follow up on section 8 housing by the agency is very reliable.
I know a few people that are truly disabled here on LI that have section 8 and they are deserving and upstanding citizens.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by J5K5LY

I agree that the section 8 program was designed to help people out that are disabled or have other issues where the income is very low. However, I can tell you from experience, that PCP became filled with section 8 housing and the people in those homes were trash. The women would come from NY slums and get the housing and welfare benefits and any other freebies available. Then the boyfriends would follow, with drugs, Lincoln SUV's, bad mouths, attitude, pit bulls, threatening behavior, etc. I would see the women on line at the local stores with 6 kids, paying with food stamps while they are dressed to the nines with tons of gold jewelry and see them get into brand new SUV's to go back to the section 8 house in PCP. These houses were dumps, not maintained and eyesores. I don't think the follow up on section 8 housing by the agency is very reliable.
I know a few people that are truly disabled here on LI that have section 8 and they are deserving and upstanding citizens.

But again, where does the fault lie in allowing these types of people into our neighborhood? It isn't the Section 8 program renting to them. It's the landlords.

[J5K5LY]

Certainly it's the landlords. I don't agree that the section 8 agency does the proper follow ups.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by J5K5LY

Certainly it's the landlords. I don't agree that the section 8 agency does the proper follow ups.

What follow ups do you think Section 8 should do? (I'm genuinely curious - no snark)

[J5K5LY]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

What follow ups do you think Section 8 should do? (I'm genuinely curious - no snark)

Uh, house visits, unannounced, perhaps as a start? Speaking to neighbors to see what really goes on. How many people truly live there? Are they a problem in the neighborhood? What type of vehicles do they drive? If they are brand new top of the line SUV's, then perhaps there is some illegal activity going on. Just thoughts as I know the agency probably does not have the man power to do this. However, at least some of this should be done on a regular basis.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by J5K5LY

Uh, house visits, unannounced, perhaps as a start? Speaking to neighbors to see what really goes on. How many people truly live there? Are they a problem in the neighborhood? What type of vehicles do they drive? If they are brand new top of the line SUV's, then perhaps there is some illegal activity going on. Just thoughts as I know the agency probably does not have the man power to do this. However, at least some of this should be done on a regular basis.

Do you believe that those on assistance are not afforded the same right to the fourth amendment as the rest of us are?

[bloominscranton]

Wow. Could this thread please try to stay on some type of course related to the OP's situation?

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Do you believe that those on assistance are not afforded the same right to the fourth amendment as the rest of us are?

If you accept the assistance, then you accept the conditions under which the assistance is provided. If one of the conditions includes unannounced visits, there is no violation of the fourth amendment.

[Mr Yuk]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

If you accept the assistance, then you accept the conditions under which the assistance is provided. If one of the conditions includes unannounced visits, there is no violation of the fourth amendment.

Exactly. Even if you're not on assistance and just renting, the landlord can set conditions for the tenants, and show up unannounced any time they feel like it, as it is their property.