Super-Walmart back on the table for Tunkhannock (McDonald: houses, school)

[shoegal111]

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

Wal-Mart pays what the market bears. It doesn't matter how much a company makes, they are not going to pay employees more than $10 to $12 an hour to run a cashier or stock shelves. The DC in Tobyhanna pays a little more because it's more manual labor and you have to bust your butt. I think WM is in line with other retail stores in terms of wages. If they paid everyone $15 an hour, they would not be able to keep their prices low. And I don't believe that anyone would want to make a career out of being a WM cashier, greeter or shelf stocker. It's a great job for supplemental income for a college kid, a wife who wants to make a little extra money or an older person who wants to get out of the house for a bit, it's not a career.

A "wife who wants to make a little extra money"? What about the "husband"?

The biggest problems with Walmart is the fact that they are well known for 1. undercutting prices until they have destroyed the competion and then they raise their prices once the competion in that market is gone,
2. the price concessions they demand from vendors has lead many of their small and mid-sized vendors to their demise and 3. the price concessions they demand from their large vendors has meant that many of those vendors had to off-shore the work for places with cheaper labor, etc.

By patronizing Walmart for it's cheap prices (and cheap quality goods), you are supporting the off-shoring of manufacturing jobs from the U.S. The very ones you are always posting on this forum that we desperately need.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

Wal-Mart pays what the market bears. It doesn't matter how much a company makes, they are not going to pay employees more than $10 to $12 an hour to run a cashier or stock shelves. The DC in Tobyhanna pays a little more because it's more manual labor and you have to bust your butt. I think WM is in line with other retail stores in terms of wages. If they paid everyone $15 an hour, they would not be able to keep their prices low. And I don't believe that anyone would want to make a career out of being a WM cashier, greeter or shelf stocker. It's a great job for supplemental income for a college kid, a wife who wants to make a little extra money or an older person who wants to get out of the house for a bit, it's not a career.

Actually it's been shown that WM can raise all of their employees pays $1 per hour per person simply by charging an extra penny on all of their products. It wouldn't hurt their bottom line either.

Maybe for you and me it's not a career but for many people it is.

[Mr Yuk]

Originally Posted by shoegal111

A "wife who wants to make a little extra money"? What about the "husband"?

The biggest problems with Walmart is the fact that they are well known for 1. undercutting prices until they have destroyed the competion and then they raise their prices once the competion in that market is gone,
2. the price concessions they demand from vendors has lead many of their small and mid-sized vendors to their demise and 3. the price concessions they demand from their large vendors has meant that many of those vendors had to off-shore the work for places with cheaper labor, etc.

By patronizing Walmart for it's cheap prices (and cheap quality goods), you are supporting the off-shoring of manufacturing jobs from the U.S. The very ones you are always posting on this forum that we desperately need.

They raise their prices?? Really? Wal-Mart has been in this area for near 20 years and they haven't jacked up those prices yet. Another one of the myths of the Wal-Mart bashers.

If the prices they suppsedly "demand" from the suppliers was too low for the suppliers to make a profit, they wouldn't do business with Wal-Mart. Obviously, there is money to be made in distributing to Wal-Mart. Profit margins will be lower with the volume of sales at a store the size of Wal-Mart.

And if you think Wal-Mart is the only place selling cheap Chinese made products, you're delusional. Actually, WM was one of the last holdouts that tried to sell American-made goods whenever possible. Its near impossible to sell American made products these days....they just don't exist with a lot of items.

[shoegal111]

Originally Posted by go phillies

They raise their prices?? Really? Wal-Mart has been in this area for near 20 years and they haven't jacked up those prices yet. Another one of the myths of the Wal-Mart bashers.

If the prices they suppsedly "demand" from the suppliers was too low for the suppliers to make a profit, they wouldn't do business with Wal-Mart. Obviously, there is money to be made in distributing to Wal-Mart. Profit margins will be lower with the volume of sales at a store the size of Wal-Mart.

And if you think Wal-Mart is the only place selling cheap Chinese made products, you're delusional. Actually, WM was one of the last holdouts that tried to sell American-made goods whenever possible. Its near impossible to sell American made products these days....they just don't exist with a lot of items.

I think you better check your facts. There are many small and mid-sized vendors that thought having Walmart as a customer was a good idea but hind-sight is 20/20. Walmart does raise their prices once they have been able to wipe out the competition- This normally occurs in more rural areas not in metro areas like Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. And as for their " Made in the U.S.A." program, you might want to check that out because the media exposed that one years ago as being a big sham. Can we say Kathy Lee Gifford clothing among others...

[Magritte25]

As someone who works for one of the biggest vendors of Walmart, you are flat out wrong GP. We HAVE to supply WM because they are so huge. Now, my company does make a profit but not NEARLY as much as we do with other store chains. WM strongarms companies like mine into undercutting our prices in order to sell our products in their store.

Why should profit margins be LOWER when WM has so many stores? That makes no sense.

WM also LIED and tagged items fallaciously stating they were made in the USA when they were not. I don't know any other store that so proudly touts their "Americanism" yet uses cheap illegal labor and totally skirts the American business ideal.

[Mr Yuk]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Why should profit margins be LOWER when WM has so many stores? That makes no sense.

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It makes perfect sense. That's how its done....the higher the volume, the lower the profit margin. That's in every single industry. Its the same theory as items costing less when you buy them in bulk.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by go phillies

It makes perfect sense. That's how its done....the higher the volume, the lower the profit margin. That's in every single industry. Its the same theory as items costing less when you buy them in bulk.

No, why should they be lower for WM than all other stores of their same size?

[Mr Yuk]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

No, why should they be lower for WM than all other stores of their same size?

Because Wal-Mart is selling more...more volume means more profit for them and for your company. That's capitalism.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by go phillies

Because Wal-Mart is selling more...more volume means more profit for them and for your company. That's capitalism.

Are you sure they are selling more than SuperTarget? Costco? BJs?

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

BJs?

Tee-hee!