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[saganista]

Originally Posted by cdmurphy

I just didn't want anyone to think that buying in Brambleton would lead to Metro-related skyrocketing home values in the future.

The clarification is certainly well made, especially given Metro's exclusive use of Brambleton. But judging from what happened in the years after the Orange Line was extended from Ballston to Vienna, being a couple of miles from a station may not be such a big barrier in terms of home value/price increases.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by saganista

I was referring (perhaps too obliquely) to certain local political elements who have stated that their goal is to build the Silver Line at the lowest possible cost. Perhaps you recall my reference to "the usual gang of whiners and screamers insisting that we don't need to build the equivalent of a Lincoln Town Car here while they mindlessly push instead for a second-hand Yugo broken down by the side of the road." As a person with more than a passing familiarity with the English language, I'm sure that on second reading, you will recognize that the object of disparagement here is not the Silver Line, but rather those who would seek to Yugofy it.

The unanswered question meanwhile had to do with the entirely unworkable original situation at National, whereunder one climbed down out of the Metro station into the narrow lanes of a parking lot, then waited in whatever weather for a mystical Metrobus that one then clumsily boarded, bags in tow, in order to be deposited some minutes later at the unsheltered curbside of one of the two then operational terminals. Anyone who could in the logistical sense, continued either to drive or take a cab to National. Yugo...er, Metro to National was not yet a viable option for those with any other.

once again, the cheaper option at Dulles will not Yugofy the Silver line, because the Dulles station is only one station on the Siliver line.

I did not generally use the metro to access National Airport, as I did not live near a metro station. I did sometimes go straight from work (near the King street metro) to National Airport, and found it not worth taking a cab (I usually travelled relatively light, to avoid waiting for checked luggage) I suspect if you looked at actually data on boardings, you would find A. that metro usage prior to the new terminal was significant (of course some of that would be airport employees, not travelers) and B. That Airport metro boardings, whatever they have increased to, are still a very small portion of total boardings along the line from Pentagon to King Street.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by saganista

The clarification is certainly well made, especially given Metro's exclusive use of Brambleton. But judging from what happened in the years after the Orange Line was extended from Ballston to Vienna, being a couple of miles from a station may not be such a big barrier in terms of home value/price increases.

the vienna metro station is in fact about 1200 feet from Nottoway Park, which last I heard, was within the boundary of the Town of Vienna.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by SallyField

Wait, this is news to me, and I've lived here 25 years. The Vienna station actually is in Vienna, and the Falls Church stations are in Falls Church, right? You just mean they aren't actually near the "business center" areas of Vienna and Falls Church? Damn, now I need to go look it up!

Be prepared for a shock. The Vienna and West Falls Church stations are in Fairfax County, and the East Falls Church Station is in Arlington. Maybe one day the town and city lines will be changed (again).

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by SallyField

Wait, this is news to me, and I've lived here 25 years. The Vienna station actually is in Vienna, and the Falls Church stations are in Falls Church, right? You just mean they aren't actually near the "business center" areas of Vienna and Falls Church?

Damn, now I need to go look it up!

one to two thousand or so feet away. Which I guess somehow is similar to a couple of miles, but don't ask me how.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

the vienna metro station is in fact about 1200 feet from Nottoway Park, which last I heard, was within the boundary of the Town of Vienna.

Moorefield Park is in the Town of Vienna. The adjacent Nottaway Park is not, and neither is the Metro station. The town line proceeds west from Marshall Road straight across Nutley and behind the condos, turning back toward town at the back line of the townhouses off the western section of Tapawingo. The Metro station and all of the housing to the north of the station off Virginia Center Blvd are in the county.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by saganista

Moorefiled Park is in the Town of Vienna. The adjacent Nottaway Park is not, and neither is the Metro station. The town line proceeds west from Marshall Road straight across Nutley and behind the condos, turning back toward town at the back line of the townhouses off the western section of Tapawingo. The Metro station and all of the housing to the north of the station off Virginia Center Blvd are in the county.

still scarcely more than 1200 ft to the town line.

Of course ALL of the town of Vienna is in Fairfax County.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

once again, the cheaper option at Dulles will not Yugofy the Silver line, because the Dulles station is only one station on the Siliver line.

And the South Bronx is not the only area of NYC, but if one were parachuted into it, such that impressions of that area were your first of the metropolitan area in general, it is doubtful that they would in any way be favorable.

And the whiners and screamers I alluded to earlier have endorsed building the Silver Line project in general at the lowest possible cost. Their nonsensical views certainly include but are not limited to the matter of the Dulles Metro station.

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

I did not generally use the metro to access National Airport, as I did not live near a metro station.

No one did prior to the opening of the new terminal in 1997. To be fair of course, the Metro station was built where it was with full knowledge of plans for construction of the new terminal. The ridiculous cockup of the original configuration was always to be just temporary. Today, the Metro station exits into the terminal and vice versa, meaning that departures and arrivals at National are as easily accomplished at any Metro station as they are at the airport itself.

[SallyField]

After some research, it looks like Vienna metro station is a Fairfax address, West Falls Church metro is an Idylwood address, and East Falls Church metro is an Arlington address. All of this is a surprise to me, but they're all close enough that I've always thought of those areas as Vienna and Falls Church. Looks like I was wrong.

But can you blame me? I mean "Idylwood"... really? Do people who live there actually call it that? Except for Idylwood Road, I've never called a location around here "Idylwood." I've always called that area Falls Church.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

one to two thousand or so feet away. Which I guess somehow is similar to a couple of miles, but don't ask me how.

It was accurately stated that the Vienna Metro station is not in fact in Vienna. This is a Boolean matter. Like Nottaway Park, the station is either within the legally defined town boundaries or it is not. It is not.

There are no incorporated places in the vicinity of the soon to be Ashburn-Brambleton-Broadlands-Ryan-Waxpool Metro station. These are all at best merely Census-designated places with no fixed boundaries at all. In essence, they are all colloquialisms of only the vaguest sort of definition. Metro has chosen to associate the current Ryan Road station name with the nearby area of Brambleton, and <cdmurphy> has correctly pointed out that the area generally thought of as Broadlands is actually closer to the station.

How do you manage to connect any dots at all between these two quite separate strands of discussion?