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Do you get equally
Tex-Mex is a legitimate regional variation of Mexican cuisine. Polynesian is not a recognized regional variation of Chinese. Now if you want to talk about SE Asian "Straits Chinese" that's another story.
07-31-2012, 06:16 AM
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Not sure if these is exactly what you had in mind, but when I googled Hawaiian food I got the following.
Hawaiian food truck in DC -
Hula Girl
Filipino restaurant in Falls Church called Karaoke Idol. The top floor of the building (street level) is a restaurant and the basement level is a karaoke bar.
Mahalo Cove, the Hawaiian themed place in Cascades Marketplace, Sterling (They have things like mahi mahi tacos, but I think this is more of a sports bar with a theme. I'm not sure how much of the food is all that Hawaiian--I'd call first.)
Island Delica-Seas in Fredericksburg
also, check out Hula Cafe in Falls Church (I think that's the name, it's next to the State Theater),
07-31-2012, 08:10 PM
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Tex-Mex is a legitimate regional variation of Mexican cuisine. Polynesian is not a recognized regional variation of Chinese. Now if you want to talk about SE Asian "Straits Chinese" that's another story.
Who decides what's a "legitimate" or "recognized" regional variation of a cuisine? This sounds a little like Calvin Ball to me...
07-31-2012, 08:23 PM
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In New England there is a unique style of Chinese Food called "Polynesian Chinese".
I've been here since 1994 and haven't found one.
I knew of some in Massachusetts, though!
When headed to Tanglewood -- Luau Hale.
When in Sturbridge -- Kahula.
When headed along Route 3 in New Hampshire -- China Dragon.
Ahhh -- the memories!
07-31-2012, 11:14 PM
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Tex-Mex is a legitimate regional variation of Mexican cuisine. Polynesian is not a recognized regional variation of Chinese. Now if you want to talk about SE Asian "Straits Chinese" that's another story.
Although I would almost always prefer Straits Chinese food (Chinese recipes, Malay ingredients, common in Singapore and Malaysia, esp. around Penang) to Polynesian-Chinese or Hawaiian-Chinese food, the latter -- which is an outgrowth of early "Cantonese-American" food with a stop in Hawaii -- is as "legitimate" as any other type of fusion or invented cuisine.
I don't personally care for that type of food, but that doesn't make it any less "legitimate" than food served by Korean taco trucks so popular in SoCal now. Yes, CAVA1990, there is such a beast as Korean-Mexican food, a unique American invention.
Welcome to the
melting pot , literally.
Speakin' of which, when is there going to be a Malaysian restaurant in NoVA? Now that I don't work on K Street, it's such a hassle to go to Malaysia Kopitiam that I stopped going altogether (besides, MK never served black pepper crab). Gosh, I'd almost kill for that now.
08-01-2012, 01:24 AM
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Speakin' of which, when is there going to be a Malaysian restaurant in NoVA? Now that I don't work on K Street, it's such a hassle to go to Malaysia Kopitiam that I stopped going altogether (besides, MK never served black pepper crab). Gosh, I'd almost kill for that now.
We've got Indonesian (Satay Sarinah) and Burmese (Myanmar) at dedicated spots but Malaysian seems to be just a part of larger menus at a couple of places in Alexandria (South China Restaurant on Mount Vernon Ave. and Asian Bistro on King St.).
08-01-2012, 01:36 AM
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Who decides what's a "legitimate" or "recognized" regional variation of a cuisine? This sounds a little like Calvin Ball to me...
CAVA decides. The criterion I use for a legitimate regional varaiation is the food actually has to be local to one of the places referenced in the name. For example Tex Mex is actually eaten in Texas, Cal Mex in California, and Straits Chinese along the Strait of Malacca. Anything else like ILD's Korea Mex or Polynesian Chinese is just fusion food, which is a different culinary animal.
08-01-2012, 01:52 AM
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CAVA decides. The criterion I use for a legitimate regional varaiation is the food actually has to be local to one of the places referenced in the name. For example Tex Mex is actually eaten in Texas, Cal Mex in California, and Straits Chinese along the Strait of Malacca. Anything else like ILD's Korea Mex or Polynesian Chinese is just fusion food, which is a different culinary animal.
I hate to burst your bubbles, but all food is "fusion" food.
As someone else pointed out earlier, do you think South Asians were eating lamb vindaloo before the Portuguese traders showed up with
capsicum (mirchi)? Can you imagine Korean Kimchi without it? Yet these cuisines in their earlier "authentic" forms looked nothing like what they do now.
There is no such thing as "legitimate" or "illegitimate" food. There is only food that is tasty to you or not.
Korean taco is a type of a food that is
authentically American, particularly Southern Californian, something that represents the unique blend of demographic culinary conditions that exist in that area. Polynesian-Chinese is no different. It is a creature of its time and place.
Look, I generally hold my nose at what's often advertised as "fusion" food and look for more "authentic" offerings, but that's not because I am some sort of a food pedant. I just find that my palate runs more toward the spicy than sugary, and "fusion" stuff tends to run on the sugary side.
08-01-2012, 02:04 AM
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but all food is "fusion" food.capsicum (mirchi)? Can you imagine Korean Kimchi without it? Yet these cuisines in their earlier "authentic" forms looked nothing like what they do now.
I didn't say it wasn't legitimate food. I said it wasn't a legitimate regional variation, unless you can show me that this New England Polynesian Chinese cuisine is local to Polynesia or China. This is more like someone in Polynesia putting wonton in clam chowder and calling it New England Chinese.
08-01-2012, 02:28 AM
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I didn't say it wasn't legitimate food. I said it wasn't a legitimate regional variation, unless you can show me that this New England Polynesian Chinese cuisine is local to Polynesia or China. This is more like someone in Polynesia putting wonton in clam chowder and calling it New England Chinese.
I'd say 99% of what passes for "Chinese" food in the U.S. is not "local" to China. For that matter, I'd say 99% of what passes for "Chinese" food
anywhere in the world is not "local" to China. Chinese food is renowned for its adaptation to local palates. I've had "Chinese" food in 50+ countries and they all taste different. Yet they are all cooked by the Chinese diaspora as was (at least initially) Polynesian-Chinese food.
I happen to love Indo-Chinese food (no, not Indochinese, as in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia -- although I love that type of food too) -- which is "Chinese" food Indians prepare and eat. It's not local to China either, but it exists and is an interesting variation of both Chinese and Indian culinary traditions.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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