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Old 02-19-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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I think if you took DC out of NoVA and pushed time back about 10 years and stick a good quality university nearby, it turns into R-D.

I was mainly responding to that point. I think we already have the quality university part taken care of.
Maybe so, but GMU is no Duke with a world-renowned medical center attached to it that people come to from all over the world for treatment. Add in a another top-tier university like UNC that also has a well-respected medical center, and I can see that they would have a pretty big influence in NoVA if they were located there.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Maybe so, but GMU is no Duke with a world-renowned medical center attached to it that people come to from all over the world for treatment. Add in a another top-tier university like UNC that also has a well-respected medical center, and I can see that they would have a pretty big influence in NoVA if they were located there.
Keep in mind though we do have some powerhouses in that field next door to us like Georgetown, George Washington, Bethesda, Walter Reed (much of which has moved to NoVA), and NIH. Not to mention our own non-university associated Fairfax Hospital (where Cheney got his new heart). Duke and UNC might be redundant. I don't think great medical care and research are things this area lacks.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Macao
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This area is more culturally conservative (in terms of things like food, music, art and fashion) than the South Bay. Can you imagine NoVAns at Burning Man? They'd be afraid of jeopardizing their security clearances.
I can't imagine San Jose people going to Burning Man either.

I can imagine San Francisco people, Oakland people, Santa Cruz people, etc.

But, San Jose people who willingly choose to live in SJ when there is SF right there. I think it says a statement about the people. Those same people choosing SJ over SF, would be choosing (making computer code?) over heading off to the deserts of Nevada for a week.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:48 AM
 
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I can't imagine San Jose people going to Burning Man either.

I can imagine San Francisco people, Oakland people, Santa Cruz people, etc.

But, San Jose people who willingly choose to live in SJ when there is SF right there. I think it says a statement about the people. Those same people choosing SJ over SF, would be choosing (making computer code?) over heading off to the deserts of Nevada for a week.
As a former Burner I can tell you it's loaded with Silicon Valley folks, many of whom use their engineering skills and spare time throughout the year to plan and put together the creative visual displays that make the event so interesting. I used to camp with a bunch of them. Some of the more well to do fly in from San Jose and park their planes at Black Rock airport.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Like others have said, Raleigh-Durham, NC most resembles NOVA but it's around 15 years behind. That also means 15 years behind in traffic and congestion problems that has made NOVA unbearable to some people. I hope good road construction like 540 and more use of 4 lane highways continues in NC.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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I think the suburbs of Dallas, TX are a lot like NoVa, at least in appearance. Bland and boring. All the houses look the same. Everything is new, but not interesting. People go to malls for fun. And it's too hot in the summer.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Maybe so, but GMU is no Duke with a world-renowned medical center attached to it that people come to from all over the world for treatment. Add in a another top-tier university like UNC that also has a well-respected medical center, and I can see that they would have a pretty big influence in NoVA if they were located there.
That's what I meant. GMU is a good quality university, but it is neither world-class or as regionally influential as Duke is in Raleigh-Durham. In a way, Duke made R-D, R-D did not make Duke in contrast to GMU or even Georgetown.

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Keep in mind though we do have some powerhouses in that field next door to us like Georgetown, George Washington, Bethesda, Walter Reed (much of which has moved to NoVA), and NIH. Not to mention our own non-university associated Fairfax Hospital (where Cheney got his new heart). Duke and UNC might be redundant. I don't think great medical care and research are things this area lacks.
Take out DC and much of this disappears. Much of Georgetown's cachet is from being in... Georgetown.

Again, if you took DC out, pushed back time about 10 years and stuck an elite university in the middle, NoVA would become very similar to Raleigh-Durham.
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I think the suburbs of Dallas, TX are a lot like NoVa, at least in appearance. Bland and boring. All the houses look the same. Everything is new, but not interesting. People go to malls for fun. And it's too hot in the summer.
Dallas hot is not NoVA hot! And I don't think folks in NoVA frequent malls for fun with so much going on in the area. Both geography, demographics and culture are very different as are income and education levels.

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Like others have said, Raleigh-Durham, NC most resembles NOVA but it's around 15 years behind. That also means 15 years behind in traffic and congestion problems that has made NOVA unbearable to some people. I hope good road construction like 540 and more use of 4 lane highways continues in NC.
Isn't it funny in a way to see the historical process replicate so nearby so soon?
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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I seriously doubt Raleigh Durham will be anywhere near where NoVA is now in 10, 15, 20 years or ever. In fact I predict it will decline as time goes on. It's a third rate metro that doesn't have a whole lot going for it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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I seriously doubt Raleigh Durham will be anywhere near where NoVA is now in 10, 15, 20 years or ever. In fact I predict it will decline as time goes on. It's a third rate metro that doesn't have a whole lot going for it.
Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill has been one of the fastest growing group of cities in the United States for the past several years. It has among the highest educated populations in the country and is home to a leading medical center as well as Research Triangle Park which attracts people from all over the country and the world to work and live there. It has a moderate climate and an affordable cost of living. But yeah, other than those, it doesn't have a lot going for it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill has been one of the fastest growing group of cities in the United States for the past several years. It has among the highest educated populations in the country and is home to a leading medical center as well as Research Triangle Park which attracts people from all over the country and the world to work and live there. It has a moderate climate and an affordable cost of living. But yeah, other than those, it doesn't have a lot going for it.
Its best days are behind it.
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