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Old 09-18-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: McLean, VA
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Is your agency making plans? This should be interesting, to say the least.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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*queue impending doom music* Countdown to Shutdown!

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Old 09-18-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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I'm already at home (possibly up to 3 weeks) for the Navy Yard mess; however, I have been hearing this on the news today and I just want to cry. It's so ridiculous and I feel so angry.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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*queue impending doom music* Countdown to Shutdown!

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: McLean, VA
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What really caught my attention was a Congressional Research Service report stating that this time (unlike in the 1990s), federal employees may NOT receive back pay.

“Federal employees who have been furloughed under a shutdown historically have received their salaries retroactively. There appears to be no guarantee that employees placed on shutdown furlough would receive such pay,” according to a recent Congressional Research Service report. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34680.pdf
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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What really caught my attention was a Congressional Research Service report stating that this time (unlike in the 1990s), federal employees may NOT receive back pay.

“Federal employees who have been furloughed under a shutdown historically have received their salaries retroactively. There appears to be no guarantee that employees placed on shutdown furlough would receive such pay,” according to a recent Congressional Research Service report. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34680.pdf

This is nothing new. We are NEVER guaranteed compensation. It's up to the people in charge, after the fact, to vote on that. I think some of the media tried to point out that during the last debacle, the republicans were mighty chagrined over the the shutdown and went along with the payback for goodwill purposes. Now, they don't seem to give a crap about their little game of chicken. Different times.
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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Here we go again. If the government actually does shut down and workers actually lose money, NOVA will take a huge hit. We have managed to dodge the bullets (mostly) thus far, which only emboldens the "it won't be so bad crowd." What gets me is they are arguing about whether to pay the money we already spent, i.e. raising the debt ceiling. After much gnashing of teeth, Congress will raise it. It's too bad they we here in the DC Met have all become pawns in this game. This time it's looking worse for us than before.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Springfield
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I'm already at home (possibly up to 3 weeks) for the Navy Yard mess; however, I have been hearing this on the news today and I just want to cry. It's so ridiculous and I feel so angry.
You can now eat your breakfast at home for the next 3 weeks.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:43 AM
 
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This is nothing new. We are NEVER guaranteed compensation. It's up to the people in charge, after the fact, to vote on that. I think some of the media tried to point out that during the last debacle, the republicans were mighty chagrined over the the shutdown and went along with the payback for goodwill purposes. Now, they don't seem to give a crap about their little game of chicken. Different times.
My mother worked in Agriculture and USTR before retiring in the late 90's; she went through that government shutdown, and was paid retroactively. From what she remembers talking to finance people in her agency, the way pay systems are set up to automatically deposit money into bank accounts, it is incredibly expensive to screw around with. Figuring out who isn't supposed to get paid, who got marked essential and is supposed to get paid, who got changed over halfway through the shutdown because it was decided that someone was/wasn't essential after all, and all the headaches that come with changing it in general, it actually becomes less expensive to just pay everyone. Or so she was told.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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My mother worked in Agriculture and USTR before retiring in the late 90's; she went through that government shutdown, and was paid retroactively. From what she remembers talking to finance people in her agency, the way pay systems are set up to automatically deposit money into bank accounts, it is incredibly expensive to screw around with. Figuring out who isn't supposed to get paid, who got marked essential and is supposed to get paid, who got changed over halfway through the shutdown because it was decided that someone was/wasn't essential after all, and all the headaches that come with changing it in general, it actually becomes less expensive to just pay everyone. Or so she was told.
I thought employees, salary or otherwise, have to classify hours on a timesheet?
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