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Old 12-19-2007, 11:40 PM
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another reason is that places like columbus, indy and louisville include hundreds of thousands of suburban residents in their 'city population' that bring up the average. The data should be based on a radius from the city center, not on political lines.
Thats true, but for places like Cleveland even if you added the closest suburbs the poverty rate would still be high. Louisville actually absorbed the whole rest of the county and still only has 550,000 people. If Cleveland absorbed the rest of Cuyahoga county the population would be 1.4 million and the poverty rate would be around 15%.

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Old 12-20-2007, 02:34 AM
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Thats true, but for places like Cleveland even if you added the closest suburbs the poverty rate would still be high. Louisville actually absorbed the whole rest of the county and still only has 550,000 people. If Cleveland absorbed the rest of Cuyahoga county the population would be 1.4 million and the poverty rate would be around 15%.
Not true....Louisville has 701,500 in its county...the census does not recognize some incorporated places in the county. This is a point of contention for Louisville which considers its population to be over 700k, making it the 17th largest city. Also, Louisville's county is relatively small geographically compared to most US counties (KY has the most counties of any state, and thus they are smaller).

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Miami's probably high on the list because the landed wealthy move there but they're not necessarily earning reportable income. The MO among the Miami elite is to hide your income in the BVI or Switzerland.
Cleveland's low income status has to do with a bad economy. Miami's situation is alot of elderly moving there who have money but don't work, and alot of the poor moving there.

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Old 12-20-2007, 06:41 PM
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Jefferson County, the county Louisville is in, takes up 385 sq mi. and has a population of 700,000. Cuyahoga County takes up 450 sq. miles and has a population of 1,390,000. Also the Louisville CSA only has 1,350,000 people, and the Cleveland CSA has 3,000,000 people. If Cleveland merged with Cuyahoga County its population would be 1,390,000 making it the 7th largest city in the country.

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Old 12-20-2007, 09:58 PM
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Jefferson County, the county Louisville is in, takes up 385 sq mi. and has a population of 700,000. Cuyahoga County takes up 450 sq. miles and has a population of 1,390,000. Also the Louisville CSA only has 1,350,000 people, and the Cleveland CSA has 3,000,000 people. If Cleveland merged with Cuyahoga County its population would be 1,390,000 making it the 7th largest city in the country.
Clevelabd is about twice as large as Louisville. CSA is not a good choice IMO bc it includes small towns 50 miles away that have no semblence on what a city feels like. Pound for pound, I personally find more activity and fun in Louisville. I have never lived in Cleveland, but made frequent trips when I lived in Columbus. A better stat to compare is metro area, which still includes a huge swath of land, and it has Cleveland at 2.1 million and Louisville at 1.2 million. Still,. Cleveland metro is actually losing population which is rare for metro areas And, if Louisville's whole county were included it would be the 16th largest US city:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_o...tistical_Areas

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Old 12-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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The biggest employer in the state of Ohio is......... drum roll.......

WAL-MART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that is the truth. Seriously.

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The biggest employer in the state of Ohio is......... drum roll.......

WAL-MART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that is the truth. Seriously.


Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Wal-Mart is the world's largest corporation by revenue, and the world's largest private employer!! I would surmise that Wal-Mart has a high percentage of employment in every state in this country.

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Old 12-25-2007, 04:47 PM
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I dont have too much of a problem with wal-mart because they do provide jobs and everything. But I think wal-mart has a responsiblilty to do better than its doing. They should pay their people better and offer better health plans and other plans. Also they should get more of their products made in the United States instead of China, I hear 70% of their products are made in other countries. Of course if they did all that they would have to increase their prices a lot and it wouldnt be so popular.

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Also they should get more of their products made in the United States instead of China, I hear 70% of their products are made in other countries. Of course if they did all that they would have to increase their prices a lot and it wouldnt be so popular.

There often isn't an alternative to a foreign-manufactured part/product. It is not Wal-Mart's decision where the products are manufactured. It is tough to come to grips with this fact, but the United States cannot many support manufacturing initiatives today. The United States is moving to a service-driven economy, and that will not change in the near future. As infrastructure grows in the BRIC countries (Brazil, India, Russia, China), we will see more and more of our manufacturing move overseas. As far as the mfg. operations still in the US, many/most of the parts going into the products here are made overseas. The same is true of many consumer goods we purchase.

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