Columbus vs Cinncy metro crime (Cleveland, Cincinnati: crime rate, neighborhood, most dangerous)

[scarecrow-]

Which metro has more crime?

[woxyroxme]

Cincinnati, not even close.

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[unusualfire]

^It's metro and not city. And the Cincinnati metro is one of the safer ones in the country.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...tables/table-6

[Zen_master]

Having resided in both cities I would have to say Columbus. For the record, both are quite safe from a violent crime standpoint. However, the Columbus metro is more dense and there is a positive correlation between density and crime. Take a look at how large I-275 is compared to I-270. Further, Cincinnati's suburbs have a lower population and more spread out than those in Columbus - although there are more individual communities in Cincinnati.

Anecdotally one could compare Westerville (Columbus) to Kings Mills (Cincinnati). Both are Northeast suburbs of their respective metropolis and about a 30 minute commute to downtown barring traffic. Westerville is significantly more dense than Kings Mills and a casual perusal of the neighborhood paper's crime statistics will yield more burglaries and thefts in Westerville compared to Kings Mills where the highlight of the crime reports might be a bust of a party of underage drinkers or a repeat DUI offender. But again, violent crime such as armed robbery is likely to be very low in both.

[jbcmh81]

Columbus is the safer city easily, but has higher crime in the overall metro.

[Zen_master]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Columbus is the safer city easily, but has higher crime in the overall metro.

Agree. Largely attributable to past annexation practices and Columbus' city limits extending well beyond the downtown and central city area. This is reflected in Columbus City having a population of almost 800 thousand persons. Conversely Cincinnati City has a population of right around 300 thousand. On the other hand Columbus is the smallest of the Three-Cs when you take a look at the surrounding metropolitan (MSA) population with Cincinnati coming in second behind Cleveland. Point being, if you are in Cincinnati-proper you are likely near the urban core, but in the case of Columbus you could be within the city's borders anywhere from the downtown area to what most would consider suburban areas bordering affluent outer ring suburbs of Powell and New Albany.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by Zen_master

Agree...On the other hand Columbus is the smallest of the Three-Cs when you take a look at the surrounding metropolitan (MSA) population with Cincinnati coming in second behind Cleveland...

Although Ohio's "3-C" metro populations are surprisingly close, Cincinnati is still the state's largest MSA.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Zen_master

Agree. Largely attributable to past annexation practices and Columbus' city limits extending well beyond the downtown and central city area. This is reflected in Columbus City having a population of almost 800 thousand persons. Conversely Cincinnati City has a population of right around 300 thousand. On the other hand Columbus is the smallest of the Three-Cs when you take a look at the surrounding metropolitan (MSA) population with Cincinnati coming in second behind Cleveland. Point being, if you are in Cincinnati-proper you are likely near the urban core, but in the case of Columbus you could be within the city's borders anywhere from the downtown area to what most would consider suburban areas bordering affluent outer ring suburbs of Powell and New Albany.

When it comes to crime rates, though, size isn't necessarily a good thing, because it can inadvertantly include more places where crime occurs, cancelling out some of the dilution from more population. Anyway, this is like debating which city is more dense. Unless you start out with exactly the same base parameters, it's difficult to determine the true ranking. None of the cities or metros are the same.

I am more concerned with trends, anyway, and all 3-Cs are seeing crime on the decline, which is great.

[immersedincincy]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

When it comes to crime rates, though, size isn't necessarily a good thing, because it can inadvertantly include more places where crime occurs, cancelling out some of the dilution from more population. Anyway, this is like debating which city is more dense. Unless you start out with exactly the same base parameters, it's difficult to determine the true ranking. None of the cities or metros are the same.

I am more concerned with trends, anyway, and all 3-Cs are seeing crime on the decline, which is great.

Not to start a pissing contest but, an example of one of these inadvertent places where crime occurs canceling out some of the dilution would be great.

[pontiac51]

Using MSA's (or CSA's) to compare crime rates between Columbus and Cincinnati is ridiculous because they are way too broad. Does crime in Marysville have anything to do with crime in Columbus? Does crime in Middletown have anything to do with crime in Cincinnati? A better comparison would be Franklin County to Hamilton County, urban area to urban area or simply city to city. But MSA to MSA is a joke!!
Remember, MSA's have nothing to do continuous development. The western third of Hamilton County is sparsely populated, just like the Indiana portion of the MSA. My guess is that the crime rate is very low there. In the Columbus area, there are cows grazing 6 miles from the state capitol. I'm pretty sure there is not a whole lot going on the Columbus farms, crime-wise or otherwise. So maybe urban area to urban area is the best metric to compare crime rates.