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Old 10-21-2018, 01:12 AM
 
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This column expressly states what many persons are thinking -- the Zach Smith episode was only the most scandalous example of the consequences of Urban Meyer hiring his buddies (or in Zach Smith's case, the grandson of his mentor), regardless of their competency, as extremely high-paid Ohio State assistant coaches.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...ks-at-coaching

Ohio State has the highest player recruiting scores in the Big Ten, and among the highest in the nation, and yet gets spanked by Purdue, and blown out last year by Iowa. In both of these losses to Iowa and Purdue, Ohio State fell victim to much superior coaching, clearly not to superior player talent. Meyer's buddy coaching system isn't working.

https://www.buckeyextra.com/sports/2...ns-bottom-line

Purdue came into the Ohio State game ranked 92nd in the nation in team defense....

https://sports.yahoo.com/purdue-puts...041451595.html

IMO, it doesn't appear that Ohio State's defensive players still remember how to make one-on-one tackles.

Urban Meyer needs to shed some friends and hire extremely competent assistant coaches as replacements, or he will plunge Ohio State into an abyss from which recovery will be a difficult project, perhaps one similar to what Michigan went through in the last decade. If this were to happen, Meyer's coaching legacy also will be greatly tarnished, and, to a large degree, it already has been the last two years.

It won't be long before recruiting class quality plunges if Meyer doesn't make the necessary coaching changes.

I'll be surprised if Ohio State doesn't lose to Michigan, which seems vastly improved, greatly by the hiring this season of Ed Warriner as the Wolverines' offensive line coach. Warriner did an excellent job as Ohio State's offensive line coach, before Meyer reassigned him to make room for buddy Greg Studrawa.

The loss of secondary coach Kerry Coombs to the pro ranks seemingly has left a major void in the Ohio State coaching ranks that Meyer has not successfully filled.

If Ohio State loses to Michigan, and perhaps even to Michigan State (which, due to excellent coaching, also plays far above the relative quality of its players), I wonder if Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith won't decide at year-end the best way to fix this mess, and save the Ohio State football franchise and the financial largesse it bestows on Ohio State athletics in general, as well as Gene Smith's own job, is to cut Meyer lose, and perhaps replace him with someone like Purdue coach Jeff Brohm.

If Ohio State's 2019 recruiting class falls apart, which might happen with a loss to Michigan, let alone a loss to both Michigan and Michigan State, the odds of Gene Smith taking decisive action are greatly increased. Thad Matta's recruiting woes were the excuse Smith used to sack Matta and replace him with Chris Holtmann. Smith's apparent success with this executive decision certainly puts Meyer in a more vulnerable position, especially if he refuses to cut bait with his coaching buddies.

https://www.toledoblade.com/College/...ing-trail.html

The Zach Smith debacle certainly, the Iowa and Purdue losses, and perhaps other disappointments as the season progresses, likely would give Gene Smith a free reign to act, especially as some persons still would like to scrub the Zach Smith incident from the Ohio State slate.

Meyer these days seems to be running a reunion more than a top caliber football operation. The question is can Meyer fix the mess that he alone has created.

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Old 10-21-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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Relax...Some things to think about, Ohio State is 3-5 in their last road games against Purdue in West Lafayette. Knox(#1) and Moore(#4) for Purdue are legitimate ballers and since they’ve beaten a good Boston College team, are a totally different team. So, sometimes there are intangibles to consider with particular match ups.
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Old 10-21-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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Relax...Some things to think about, Ohio State is 3-5 in their last road games against Purdue in West Lafayette. Knox(#1) and Moore(#4) for Purdue are legitimate ballers and since they’ve beaten a good Boston College team, are a totally different team. So, sometimes there are intangibles to consider with particular match ups.
We'll see against Michigan State and Michigan if Ohio State's glaring weaknesses are remedial, even after the upcoming bye week. Heck, there even should be some worry about the road trip to Maryland, which defeated Texas at home. Michigan State also beat Penn State in Happy Valley.... Did you notice that winless Nebraska beat Minnesota handily, the same team Ohio State struggled with in its prior game?

There is no excuse for a team with the talent edge possessed by Ohio State to cripple two consecutive seasons with losses to the likes of Iowa and especially Purdue, even if road games.

Ohio State was a team with national championship aspirations, which now are floundering with the bad loss at Purdue. Sure, Purdue has a couple good players but they are vastly outnumbered by the pro talent potentially on the Ohio State team. Why are you making excuses for this sorry mess?
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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Here are a couple more articles delving into Ohio State's 2018 football team deficiencies. The first article was written BEFORE the loss to Purdue.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...o-fix-problems

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...-case-scenario

BTW, Purdue lost a home to Eastern Michigan.

https://fbschedules.com/eastern-mich...ball-schedule/

Don't be surprised if Ohio State isn't selected for the play-offs even if it wins the rest of its games.
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Old 10-21-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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Any team that loses to Purdue should not be thinking about the CFP, full stop. No knock on Purdue, and not to say they can't finish strong and beat MSU or Michigan. But it's just not good enough. Would Alabama lose by 4 scores to a team like Purdue under any circumstances? Absolutely not. OSU in recent years has shown some signs of being good, but they are a level below "great."
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:14 AM
 
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Default Replace Nelson with Laurinaitis

Purdue head coach Jeff Brohm and his staff clearly saw the vulnerabilities of Ohio State's defensive scheme, as explained by James Laurinaitis.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...eeds-adjusting

Laurinaitis laments that Ohio State is wasting superior athleticism among its linebacker corps by placing them on the line in the team's 4-3 defensive scheme, limiting their ability to react to well-crafted offensive schemes to take advantage of this ridiculousness.

Persons are questioning the athletic caliber of Ohio State's linebackers, even though the team is stocked with five-stars in Justin Hilliard and Baron Browning, and rounded out with 4-star talent.

It's the coaching stupid. Last year was a mess, and things have gotten worse this year. The reality is that Urban Meyer's deficiencies have been patently displayed by his buddy coaches to whom he has entrusted his team. Ohio State's greatly superior talent has provided CYA in the victory column overall, but Meyer clearly has had no clue how his buddy coaches have wasted what is almost always a vastly superior talent gap and created a flawed and shockingly vulnerable defense.

The reality is that top linebacker talent in coming years won't want anything to do with Ohio State until Meyer, or his successor, changes directions. Perhaps replace buddy linebacker coach Bill Nelson ASAP with Laurinaitis, although Laurinaitis likely is persona non gratis in Meyer's eyes after his explicit criticisms.

I also suspect that Meyer has some regrets that Brian Hartline has excelled as a receivers coach because he had eyed that position for his son-in-law Corey Dennis. Meyer, an unheralded football player at Cincinnati, started out as a receivers coach.

https://www.toledoblade.com/Ohio-Sta...ers-coach.html

Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith apparently is NOT oblivious to any of this.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...yer-ohio-state

Gene Smith would be a fool not to understand that Meyer has put the ball in Smith's court.

https://247sports.com/Article/Report...ate-123674756/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...yer-ohio-state

SEC propaganda chief and ESPN commentator Paul Finebaum is feasting on Meyer's woes, obviously impairing Ohio State's reputation in recently fertile recruiting states such as Florida and Georgia.

https://saturdaytradition.com/ohio-s...way-and-quits/

With Ohio's major sports news outlets starting to pile on with criticism of Meyer's buddy coach system, both Meyer and Gene Smith have major problems.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/1...ohio_stat.html

There clearly is some insinuation that physical ills are impairing Meyer's coaching skills, especially after Meyer fainted on the sideline during a game this season.

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Old 10-23-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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Former Ohio State quarterback and now a leading ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit suspects this season's problems may not be as easy to correct as last season for the Ohio State football program.

https://247sports.com/Article/After-...same-123657410

Ohio State has second greatest talent base in college football, but its performance doesn't reflect it.

https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-yard-...214219276.html

https://247sports.com/Article/After-...same-123657410
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Old 10-24-2018, 02:31 AM
 
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More specifics about how coaching failures have crippled this year's Ohio State football team.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...michael-jordan
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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Default Michigan State defeats Purdue holding Boilermakers to 13 points

The coaching gulf between Ohio State and other Big Ten schools seems glaring, as no one believes other schools possess superior talent. Michigan State allowed Purdue to score only 13 points, a massive difference compared to the 49 points allowed by Ohio State.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/1...cart_big-photo

Inferred in the above article is that the linebacker coach Bill Davis is doing a good job in coaching the Ohio State linebackers, even regarding tackling skills.

An injury-ridden Spartans team, with even its starting QB out of action, nevertheless defeated Purdue, 23-13.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/index...rt_river_index

Hopefully, Ohio State can get its act together and defeat both Michigan State and Michigan, but both games now seem far from certain victories.

Teddy Greenstein, the Chicago Tribune's dean of Big Ten coverage, ranks Ohio State behind Michigan in his Big Ten power rankings.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...029-story.html

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Old 11-18-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Default Maryland chokes with the Buckeyes on the ropes

After a near upset against Maryland, which once again evidenced severe coaching deficiencies, some experts believe that Ohio State may not make the play-offs even if it wins out, defeating both Michigan (perhaps unlikely) and Northwestern.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/1...esmerises.html

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/1...esmerises.html

The Rose Bowl could be where this Ohio State team spends New Year's Day, and that actually may be the best option.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...otball-playoff
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