DeWine says Biden is the President-elect (Cleveland, Republic: credit, college, calculation)

[WRnative]

While much of the Republican Party leadership ridiculously maintains that President Trump still has some chance of winning the Presidential election, Ohio Gov. DeWine now says Biden is the President-elect. My hunch is that DeWine wants nothing to do with a delayed Presidential transition that will impair or delay the Biden administration's anticipated robust national policy response to the COVID-19 epidemic. DeWine, unlike Trump administration and Congressional Republicans, must deal with an epidemic surge that threatens Ohio hospital capacity and which may necessitate DeWine's implementation of lock-down measures within a week.

<<“We need to consider the former vice president as the president-elect," DeWine told CNN Thursday morning. "Joe Biden is the president-elect.”>>

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...gs/6262023002/

<<With the number of COVID-19 cases in Ohio continuing to reach record levels, Gov. Mike DeWine has let it be known that he is prepared to take drastic measures to stop the spread of the virus.

During a statewide address on Wednesday evening, DeWine stated that if the number of coronavirus cases does not decrease, he will be forced to close Ohio's restaurants, bars, and fitness centers.>>

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/he...4-0d757d5a8d26

<<As of Wednesday, the state has more than 3,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. DeWine said there are more than 700 COVID-19 patients in ICU units across the state.>>

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/loca...ess-11-11-2020

Ohio COVID-19 hospitalizations are up over 50 percent since the start of November and up 200 percent from a month ago, as DeWine noted yesterday.

https://covidtracking.com/data/state...ospitalization

Given the national epidemic surge, Ohio, unlike New York City in the spring, can not anticipate help from medical personnel from other states. We likely are on our own, with a current national administration that now seems little interested in the epidemic compared to torpedoing a civil and efficient transition of power.

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by WRnative

While much of the Republican Party leadership ridiculously maintains that President Trump still has some chance of winning the Presidential election, Ohio Gov. DeWine now says Biden is the President-elect. My hunch is that DeWine wants nothing to do with a delayed Presidential transition that will impair or delay the Biden administration's anticipated robust national policy response to the COVID-19 epidemic. DeWine, unlike Trump administration and Congressional Republicans, must deal with an epidemic surge that threatens Ohio hospital capacity and which may necessitate DeWine's implementation of lock-down measures within a week.

<<“We need to consider the former vice president as the president-elect," DeWine told CNN Thursday morning. "Joe Biden is the president-elect.”>>

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...gs/6262023002/

<<With the number of COVID-19 cases in Ohio continuing to reach record levels, Gov. Mike DeWine has let it be known that he is prepared to take drastic measures to stop the spread of the virus.

During a statewide address on Wednesday evening, DeWine stated that if the number of coronavirus cases does not decrease, he will be forced to close Ohio's restaurants, bars, and fitness centers.>>

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/he...4-0d757d5a8d26

<<As of Wednesday, the state has more than 3,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. DeWine said there are more than 700 COVID-19 patients in ICU units across the state.>>

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/loca...ess-11-11-2020

Ohio COVID-19 hospitalizations are up over 50 percent since the start of November and up 200 percent from a month ago, as DeWine noted yesterday.

https://covidtracking.com/data/state...ospitalization

Given the national epidemic surge, Ohio, unlike New York City in the spring, can not anticipate help from medical personnel from other states. We likely are on our own, with a current national administration that now seems little interested in the epidemic compared to torpedoing a civil and efficient transition of power.

That would be because Gov. DeWine is a fair and normal individual. While I did not vote for him, I appreciate his leadership during these uncertain times.

[Cleveland_Collector]

I can't say I give him all that much credit for stating the obvious, but at least he's decided to be the typical, whining baby that seems so prevalent in politics these days on both sides of the aisle. You lost. Take it like a bright orange man and move on.

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by Cleveland_Collector

I can't say I give him all that much credit for stating the obvious, but at least he's decided to be the typical, whining baby that seems so prevalent in politics these days on both sides of the aisle. You lost. Take it like a bright orange man and move on.

yeah well, the bar has been set REALLY LOW...so...we are at the point where "at least he's not stark raving mad" gives someone creds.

[Natural510]

He’s still a Reaganeque Republican, while 90% of the party still in office is fully Tea Party Trumper (or at least pretending, for political survival).

[atgss]

"Hurray for the Rabbit, Hurray"

[FrozenI69]

Originally Posted by sheena12

yeah well, the bar has been set REALLY LOW...so...we are at the point where "at least he's not stark raving mad" gives someone creds.

I think it’s time every American citizen also tries to understand how we ended up lowering the bar for prudent leadership to such levels, so that we don’t repeat such mistakes again.

[Cleveland_Collector]

^ Ha! Good luck with that one.

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by FrozenI69

I think it’s time every American citizen also tries to understand how we ended up lowering the bar for prudent leadership to such levels, so that we don’t repeat such mistakes again.

I could not agree more.

I don't think the Trump phenomenon is both larger and smaller than either party. There is a certain class of people, mostly centered in the Southern states, but sprinkled all over the US - who have basically been angry since the 1960s.

They are typified by the "Archie Bunker" in the sitcom "All in The Family", if anyone remembers that show.
The problem is, they have gotten angrier and crazier over the years.

By my calculations, these non-college educated whites makeup about 30% of the US, but have way too much to say.

The only thing that will raise "the bar" is when the Republican party stops catering to these people.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by sheena12

I could not agree more.

I don't think the Trump phenomenon is both larger and smaller than either party. There is a certain class of people, mostly centered in the Southern states, but sprinkled all over the US - who have basically been angry since the 1960s.

They are typified by the "Archie Bunker" in the sitcom "All in The Family", if anyone remembers that show.
The problem is, they have gotten angrier and crazier over the years.

By my calculations, these non-college educated whites makeup about 30% of the US, but have way too much to say.

The only thing that will raise "the bar" is when the Republican party stops catering to these people.

Actually, these persons, many of whom live in northeastern Ohio, have very legitimate concerns. I don't believe either party offers the tough, but available solutions needed. However, the Trump "Big Lie" propaganda at least identifies the issues and pretends to offer solutions. E.g., Trump claims that China paid the tariffs that he implemented and that manufacturing jobs are being shifted to the U.S. The tariff claim is definitely false, as American consumers paid the tariffs. I haven't researched the manufacturing job claim, but I'm highly skeptical. Almost every non-food product that I examine today is made in China or some other country. If "manufactured" in the U.S., the good likely is only assembled out of foreign-made parts.

What positively frightens me is the vulnerability of America to "Big Lie" propaganda, largly due to a massive decline in objective journalism, and the rise in "corporate" media (Fox) and social media that often propagate the Big Lies being pedaled.

E.g., consider climate change. It's barely covered by the non-coastal or broadcast media, as evidenced by the pitiful coverage of the existential issue in Greater Cleveland. It's no wonder that Trump and the Republicans actually gain support with their climate change "hoax" claims, or if acknowledging the reality, claiming we should do nothing about it. It will be interesting to see the reaction as reality imposes itself with each passing year. A friend in Colorado who is very politically astute tells me that climate change (think droughts, wildfires) has been a significant factor in changing that state blue.

Sadly, the disingenuous politicians that characterize the Republican Party today, and I'm not a fan either of Democratic Party politicians for different reasons, likely have and will do irreparable damage to the nation. I'm shocked by the general Republican support for, or at least silence about, the outrageous effort of Trump to undermine fraudulently our nation's electoral process and even dangerously delay the Presidential transition process.