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Old 10-21-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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Perhaps the routing for the former proposed Centerline rail line to start. Gotta start somewhere, typical backwards OC mentality thinks more and wider freeways is the way to go still.
Typical backwards OC mentality? Well, thank you for the compliment.

I tend to think of myself as more of a typical common sense mentality though.

I don't believe we need to "gotta start somewhere" if the idea doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Typical backwards OC mentality? Well, thank you for the compliment.

I tend to think of myself as more of a typical common sense mentality though.

I don't believe we need to "gotta start somewhere" if the idea doesn't make sense.
And what "ideas" do you have? More and wider freeways?
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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I guess it is not comprehensible to some that doing nothing is a decision. Nor is it obvious to some non residents of OC that investments have been made in local trains...or, should it ever materialize, the train that is slated to go to the Bay Area from Anaheim. Thusfar that investment has been a white elephant, and so you see, we in OC are fiscally conservative and we dislike such white elephants.
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Old 10-22-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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Doing nothing and let traffic get worse, sure it's a decision just a bad one.
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Old 10-23-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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And what "ideas" do you have? More and wider freeways?
They could finish the 241, for one.
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Old 10-23-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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They could finish the 241, for one.
Not to mention finish widening the 5, which they are doing.
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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Will the new 5 freeway expansion make it wider than Houston's Katy 10 freeway? Or at least another 405?
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Will the new 5 freeway expansion make it wider than Houston's Katy 10 freeway? Or at least another 405?

Doesnt matter how many lanes you make it.. if idiots keep left, don't move over and dont follow the rules of the road you can make it 100 lanes wide and traffic wont move
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Old 10-23-2016, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Will the new 5 freeway expansion make it wider than Houston's Katy 10 freeway? Or at least another 405?
I don't know anything about Houston's freeway.

LA's I-5 widening. And here.

South OC's I-5 widening is about half way done and can be seen here. We have been working on San Juan Cap down to San Clemente. Another segment is from Avery to El Toro, not yet started to my knowledge. Since we have an on-going tax, OC roads are superior to surrounding counties.

San Diego's I-5 portion, but only to Oceanside and not through Camp Pendleton.. San Diego has not even started and traffic on the 5 is becoming the worst of all on the weekends! It will take San Diego 20 years, no exaggeration.
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Old 10-23-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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Doing nothing and let traffic get worse, sure it's a decision just a bad one.
It gets worse slower. Build Apts, etc and it gets worse faster. Try and build trains, etc it doesn't help. The key, drive the prices so high fewer people move to OC and, ...... it stabilizes.
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