Recently spent time in Orange county and enjoyed it! (San Francisco: how much, hotels)

[sacreole]

Originally Posted by saibot

I'm not here to argue that Orange County isn't densely populated, but it's the smallest county in California and a high percentage of the land is suitable for housing.

The parts of Los Angeles County that are flat and close to the coast are also very densely populated. The "less densely populated" parts of Los Angeles County are mountains or desert. Of course, there are not so many people who want to live way out there.

Actually, San Francisco (City and County) is the smallest county in California (areawise) followed by Santa Cruz and San Mateo.

https://www.counties.org/pod/square-mileage-county

[saibot]

Originally Posted by sacreole

Actually, San Francisco (City and County) is the smallest county in California (areawise) followed by Santa Cruz and San Mateo.

https://www.counties.org/pod/square-mileage-county

My mistake! I wonder how I picked up that misinformation. It's by far the smallest in Southern California, at any rate.

[Outer_Bluegrass]

Orange County is a very nice area, but there are a couple of major issues, including extreme congestion and the lack of real greenery. Also, cool, dry climates are not my thing - I prefer hot, humid summers with some spring and fall color.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by Outer_Bluegrass

Also, cool, dry climates are not my thing - I prefer hot, humid summers with some spring and fall color.

After the last week and a half, I think many OC residents abandoned any pretense that they could tolerate a hot humid climate.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by Outer_Bluegrass

Orange County is a very nice area, but there are a couple of major issues, including extreme congestion and the lack of real greenery.

Consider all the botanical parks (and preserves) with plenty of hiking trails, lookout points, and lush ‘zen’ spaces to enjoy not to mention ocean/mountain views. From my perspective, any ‘issues’ are more relevant to L.A./the metro area vs. OC in and of itself.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

Consider all the botanical parks (and preserves) with plenty of hiking trails, lookout points, and lush ‘zen’ spaces to enjoy not to mention ocean/mountain views. From my perspective, any ‘issues’ are more relevant to L.A./the metro area vs. OC in and of itself.

What lush green botanical park in OC are you referring to?

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by Finper

What lush green botanical park in OC are you referring to?

I was speaking to parks, preserves, hiking trails and such in response to the poster who stated there’s no greenery. The largest botanical garden in OC is at the Fullerton Arboretum with many walking trails and 4200+ plant species. There’s also Noguchi Garden (with a grove of redwoods), Nigel Botanical Preserve (a trail connects to Laguna Niguel Regional Park), thirty miles of trails and coastal canyons at Wood Canyons along with 4500+ acres of wilderness as a part of the Laguna Coast WP, Limestone Canyon Regional Park/Nature Preserve (great place to mountain bike), and so on.

[Outer_Bluegrass]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

I was speaking to parks, preserves, hiking trails and such in response to the poster who stated there’s no greenery. The largest botanical garden in OC is at the Fullerton Arboretum with many walking trails and 4200+ plant species. There’s also Noguchi Garden (with a grove of redwoods), Nigel Botanical Preserve (a trail connects to Laguna Niguel Regional Park), thirty miles of trails and coastal canyons at Wood Canyons along with 4500+ acres of wilderness as a part of the Laguna Coast WP, Limestone Canyon Regional Park/Nature Preserve (great place to mountain bike), and so on.

I was referring to real, natural greenery, not arboretums or botanical gardens.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

I was speaking to parks, preserves, hiking trails and such in response to the poster who stated there’s no greenery. The largest botanical garden in OC is at the Fullerton Arboretum with many walking trails and 4200+ plant species. There’s also Noguchi Garden (with a grove of redwoods), Nigel Botanical Preserve (a trail connects to Laguna Niguel Regional Park), thirty miles of trails and coastal canyons at Wood Canyons along with 4500+ acres of wilderness as a part of the Laguna Coast WP, Limestone Canyon Regional Park/Nature Preserve (great place to mountain bike), and so on.

If you think those trails are lush and green you need to get out of. Ca more

[saibot]

Originally Posted by Finper

If you think those trails are lush and green you need to get out of. Ca more

Depends on the time of year. Sometimes they are, but no part of Southern California is naturally lush and green all year. Come to think of it, Idaho is not lush and green all year either.