Just Wondering what cities are Up and Coming (Portland, Eugene: homes, school district)

[John Smart]

Originally Posted by PNWhike

Orenco is an area that used to be covered by beautiful farms and forest for miles, miles, and miles. The entire area has been completly paved over. The area was raped by developers. That is a fact. Try to dispute me.

What about the house you live in? You think that wasn't a farm or forest at some point in history? Where do you want everyone to live? Desert? Middle of the ocean?

I remember old Orenco too. Its was just run down homes and fields of 5 foot high grass. The only thing disturbed for development were the field mice. All the new subdivisions have been required to keep open areas and parks. The city has a 60 acre park going in now.

[PNWhike]

Boy do you lose this argument. Field Mice only? Au Contraire! Fact:Orenco used to have deer, fox, pheasants, quail running around all over the place. They have nothing but parking lots to survive in now. I realize that you have some form of investment(s) in Orenco, so obviously you are biased towards paving over Oregon's countryside. It's not my problem to create housing for other people. Your attempt to minimize the destruction of wildlife habitat in Orenco is pretty pathetic.

[Wood & Creek]

Originally Posted by PNWhike

Boy do you lose this argument. Field Mice only? Au Contraire! Fact:Orenco used to have deer, fox, pheasants, quail running around all over the place. They have nothing but parking lots to survive in now. I realize that you have some form of investment(s) in Orenco, so obviously you are biased towards paving over Oregon's countryside. It's not my problem to create housing for other people. Your attempt to minimize the destruction of wildlife habitat in Orenco is pretty pathetic.

This is a real problem, and one I am currently conflicted by. I remember the first time I realized I was a part of the problem. I read an article stating that all the back to the landers and hippies who claim to love the environment so much are actually responsible for the loss of wild lands by choosing to live and build in remote areas. I am not a city girl and I've always dreamed of a little secluded forest utopia to call home. Not to mention every time I will be commuting to the city for entertainment or work I will be using a ton of gas.

Even though I know I should live in the city and ride a bike I can't let go of my dream. We are overpopulated and this problem can get nothing but worse..

The compromise I've made with myself is to build and live as sustainably as possible. And not to have a tribe of kids. I firmly believe in the one child per adult rule.

[John Smart]

Originally Posted by PNWhike

Boy do you lose this argument. Field Mice only? Au Contraire! Fact:Orenco used to have deer, fox, pheasants, quail running around all over the place. They have nothing but parking lots to survive in now. I realize that you have some form of investment(s) in Orenco, so obviously you are biased towards paving over Oregon's countryside. It's not my problem to create housing for other people. Your attempt to minimize the destruction of wildlife habitat in Orenco is pretty pathetic.

Nope, I'm not in real estate. Have you visited Noble Woods to the south of Orenco? Its still full of wildlife. Of course I do not take pleasure in seeing animals loose their homes. I'm talking about the overgrown weed fields that use to be on the North and South of Cornell Rd.

Actually, Orenco was developed (raped - your word ) over a hundred years ago. The forests were cut down to create the Oregon Nursery Co where Orenco gets its name. Housing, schools, post office all popped up and eventually a golf course. When the nursery went bankrupt so did the town and it was pretty much abandoned. I think Orenco is a shining example of how development can be done correctly. Its a green community, brought life back to an once thriving area and its received national acclaim for its successful planning.

[Lootmeister]

Your late to the dance bro.

The best place running for good property investing is goldendale washington.,

Laugh now and watch prices roll up later!

I do believe waldport oregon will create a nice long term return as well, but its a coastal city so you need to telecommute if your gonna bang that one out.

[dachmom]

The best place running for good property investing is goldendale washington.,

If you look at the OP's first post you will see that it states "good job market, schools, clean safe". Goldendale does not have a "good job market" unless you like working for minimum wage. Other than that, it fits the criteria. It might be nice for senior citizens as long as they don't need nursing home care since there is no longer a nursing home in Goldendale, the closest one is in The Dalles.

[Donn2390]

Originally Posted by John Smart

I really do not want to encourage any more out-of-staters to drive up prices as they have in the past. The days of a quick flip are gone anyway.

It really sucks when people move to the area and increase our property values and make us rich. Nothing worse than someone dumping buckets full of money on us. I hear other people use the same kind of reasoning. At least your name is smart..!!

[freedom]

Originally Posted by PNWhike

Boy do you lose this argument. Field Mice only? Au Contraire! Fact:Orenco used to have deer, fox, pheasants, quail running around all over the place. They have nothing but parking lots to survive in now. I realize that you have some form of investment(s) in Orenco, so obviously you are biased towards paving over Oregon's countryside. It's not my problem to create housing for other people. Your attempt to minimize the destruction of wildlife habitat in Orenco is pretty pathetic.

Deer are not usually discouraged from development, they like the fresh lawns and fruit trees. Pheasant and quail are a little more un social, but we take up about a 5% footprint in Oregon, so i think they'll survive.

As a developer, i think it to be naive and offensive to blame us for doing our part in providing places for human beings to live and flourish. If the development doesn't sit right with you, get involved and help to increase the costs and headaches to the community, the city and counties tell us developers how to do our job, and many times it is the cause for higher costs, and higher densities spurned on by gaia worshipers that for the most part do very little for society but complain. After all this is the toughest state in the union to develop and build.

freedom

[bobmulk]

Up and coming, you might want to consider Klamath Falls. It might be awhile, but it is destined to be another Bend. It has tremendous potential although I doubt it will be as pricey or have the cache that Bend has because it's farther from the population centers.

[tablemtn]

I think Ontario will benefit a lot in the future from growth and sprawl in Idaho's Treasure Valley. It's basically the western node of the Boise metro region.