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Old 10-21-2010, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Oceanside and Chehalem Mtns.
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The Tea Party Republican party & the current policy-of-no crop of Republicans now in DC are an entirely different animal from Tom McCall & Mark Hatfield's party.
The "party of no" is looking pretty darn good right now when the alternative is the "party of yes" policies that give us $1.5 trillion dollar deficits, unemployment rates rising to 10%, unpredictable tax policy, and an overall closed door approach to new business creation initiatives.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The "party of no" is looking pretty darn good right now when the alternative is the "party of yes" policies that give us $1.5 trillion dollar deficits, unemployment rates rising to 10%, unpredictable tax policy, and an overall closed door approach to new business creation initiatives.
I agree with you about the deficits. The whole point of a recession is to let the bad bets go bankrupt and clear the ground for new businesses. The whole Bush bailout of the banking industry was a terrible mistake, as was buying GM and Chrysler. The megabanks, in particular, are going to be a drag on the US economy for decades. We would be better off in the long run without them.

The deficit spending is just an attempt to replace irresponsible consumer borrowing with irresponsible government borrowing. It is propping up a failed system, that should be allowed to collapse. We should hand the keys of our worldwide military bases to whatever country they happen to be in, and tell them it is their problem now. We also need to immediately cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and raise taxes. The US is not going to have a serious discussion about national priorities until people are faced with losing any benefit they don't pay for. If the Republicans are so hot for fiscal responsibility, let them close half the military bases in the USA and all of them outside the USA.

The unemployement rate is the inevitable result of free trade treaties. Tax breaks for companies that move jobs offshore should be immediately cancelled, but the party of NO has effectively blocked that.

The unpredictable tax policy is the responsibility of a morally bankrupt government intent on spending money it doesn't have. To that end, Republicans want to continue a system of tax breaks that did none of us any good. The US is heading for a full blown fiscal crisis and collapse of the dollar, with a return to double digit interest rates and a recession that will make 2008 look like the good old days.

Nobody is acting for the good of the nation. They just want power for their side. They are treating the USA like a football game, except when the game is over, nobody will have a home to go to.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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It seems that in November, 2010...

both California and Oregon failed to pass voter measures on marijuana.

I must admit, I was completely wrong, in neither governors races up and down the left coast did the issue of for or against the voter measures on marijuana become the political football I thought it would. Not even in the Senatorial races either.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:24 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Actually Ron Paul would be totally in favor of legalization, as a purist libertarian. Um, Mike, it was the LIBERALS among Oregonians who made the bottle bill, beaches, etc. happen. Many of the ideas came up from the Bay Area.

Tom McCall would not receive the GOP nomination for Oregon Governor today. But he might well get the Democratic one.
Just sayin'...
Actually, both the bottle bill, and the beaches bill were introduced to the Oregon Congress via the Oregon Youth Legislature (where high school kids pretend to be a congressperson for a couple of days, and pass "bills".) Both were taken almost verbatim from the Youth Legislature after they passed, and introduced into the "real" Congress.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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The Voters in Oregon said not only "No" but "Hell No" in a landslide vote against illegal Pot. Remember it is a Federal law and even if a state says "Toke Up" it will still be illegal.
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