04-26-2012, 10:49 AM
Location: Celebration wannabe...
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Big Disney nut here...we should probably just take the plunge when our lease is up and get a rental in Celebration but keeping our options open as we could probably only afford a condo/townhouse in Celebration compared to possibly townhouse/smaller single family home in Independence. Plan on taking a ride out to Independence this weekend.
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on a comparison?
Thanks in advance!
04-27-2012, 08:52 AM
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Independence is NOTHING like Celebration except for the fact that it is a master planned community. Pictures make it look similar but the homes are MUCH nicer in Celebration but you will pay a premium. Years ago we were looking for the perfect area to live and thought that Celebration would be it. We wanted to see if there was anything similar so we looked at some homes in independence. The stucco and colors on the outside of the homes is nothing like the nice siding you get in celebration. The overall vibe is so different. I would urge you to actually drive around both communities. That being said, I wouldn't buy a home in Celebration unless I was retiring. The area around it (Kissimmee) and 192 are pretty awful, but if you plan on staying in Celebration most the time, going to disney, and taking 417 in and out, then I think it would be a great place to live. Your other option in a better area is Baldwin Park on the East side of town in Winter Park. That's the closest thing that will come to Celebration IMO.
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Big Disney nut here...we should probably just take the plunge when our lease is up and get a rental in Celebration but keeping our options open as we could probably only afford a condo/townhouse in Celebration compared to possibly townhouse/smaller single family home in Independence. Plan on taking a ride out to Independence this weekend.
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on a comparison?
Thanks in advance!
04-27-2012, 09:03 AM
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And don't forget Avalon Park.
04-27-2012, 09:29 AM
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There is no town center in Independence like there is in Celebration. There is a community center building, walking trails, dog parks, people parks but no shopping district.
04-27-2012, 10:13 AM
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And don't forget Avalon Park.
Yet another area that falls quite short of Celebration standards, though I do like it more than Independence. I haven't been but I heard Harmony is nice.
04-27-2012, 08:07 PM
Location: Orlando
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I lived in Independence for a over 2 years and overall I liked it. I think it just depends what you are looking for in a community. You can't beat the proximity to Disney, it is literally right behind Magic Kingdom and you can see the fireworks every night. I don't have children so I don't know about the schools or anything and the only other downside is for me personally, it was kind of "off the beaten path" as far as getting to downtown Orlando. It also depends on what your budget is too as Independence is way cheaper then Celebration. Other posters mentioned Baldwin, great location and probably about a 30 minute drive to Disney..I love Baldwin Park and if I could pick anywhere in Orlando to live, it would be there. Avalon Park is nice too I just find it to far east for me personally.
05-01-2012, 06:05 AM
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We have lived in Celebration for the last 9 months and love it. (minus a few issues with our landlord ;-) It is a great, safe place to live. There is always something to do. This weekend it was a pie festival. We live in walking distance to downtown. There are always people walking around downtown, locals, tourist. I never wanted to live in a subdivision where you never see anyone. It's a great place to get out and meet people. It might not be for everyone, but the people I know that live here love it.
05-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Location: Altamonte Springs, FL
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I would choose Baldwin Park of any of the master planned communities. You are close enough to Disney to go anytime you want, but you are also close to downtown Orlando, Winter Park and the other real areas for locals.
05-01-2012, 02:29 PM
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And don't forget Avalon Park.
Avalon Park was partly modeled after Celebration, Harmony and Tradition as far as the whole New Urban movement and traditional setting. I think Avalon gets a B for effort but a C- for execution. Avalon looks nice on the surface when you first drive through but there are a lot of details missing (which I blame squarely on the developer), and as soon as you start driving back in the fully residential villages it is not always a pretty sight. That said, it IS very affordable, it's very family friendly, has all A rated schools, it's near UCF so you see a lot of young people around, its got a very nice shopping plaza up the road, Alafaya Trail is finally being widened, and now that Innovation Way connects Avalon Park's front door to Rt. 528/417 you can get to the West side, e.g., Disney, in much less time and hassle, talking 30-45 mins max. 15-20 mins to the airport door-to-door.
As far as Baldwin, I have driven through many times and explored the side streets, and although it "feels" more upscale than Avalon Park, it also feels much more condensed and claustrophobic to me. And it's more expensive. Plus, you have to deal with being so close to Rt. 50 and all the eyesores there. It's all subjective, I know. And I'm not taking commutes into consideration. If you work downtown Avalon Park would not be good.
In any event, like others have said, do your own drive-by of each community, and make sure you drive the side streets and get your own feel for the place. If you are a Disney nut then Celebration is probably best and honestly it's quite nice there.
05-01-2012, 11:30 PM
Location: Winter Garden, Fl/Waxhaw, NC/Leonardo, NJ
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Hey @JustinsMama - How are you?? Just wanted to let you know we are in the process of buying in Independence!! If you want info send me a message and I will give it to you!! I just like the Winter Garden/Windermere area!! Celebration is nice but right outside is still soooo touristy and that turns me off!! Its a very safe area around Independence and they are going to be building more retail and medical, etc right behind Independence which is going to be part of the "Horizen West" project. Our realtor is on the planning committee and he has been telling us whats going in and that we are buying at a good time because when that comes in, it will raise the values of the homes in that area.
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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