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Something made you feel embarrassed. And, my opinion is still the same -- if a parent is completely open and honest with their kid from the start, there isn't going to be any embarrassment about talking to their parents about health issues. Children aren't born with guilt and embarrassment about their bodies and their bodily functions. They learn that.
OK, we'll take your "raised right" argument under advisement and simply say that not EVERY kid is raised right or has parents who are able to get them to open up about these topics. I think you would agree a lot of people fall into those latter categories.
With that being the case, I think the school should be taking the tact of encouraging the conversation and bringing both sides together instead of shutting the parents out of the situation.
Look at the case of the back alley abortion because the girl needed to get her parents consent. No counselor or person at Planned Parenthood offered her support or advice in that area nor did they do anything to try and bring the two sides together.
I think my argument is a valid one. The school insists that parents "buy-in" to achieve better educational and discipline results, yet in this case they seemed to want to cut the parents out entirely. If parents suck so bad that the schools now need to raise our kids to the point they are allowing them to be driven to a clinic for BC injections, maybe they should be putting some emphasis on getting the parents more involved and opening the lines of communication.
Something made you feel embarrassed. And, my opinion is still the same -- if a parent is completely open and honest with their kid from the start, there isn't going to be any embarrassment about talking to their parents about health issues. Children aren't born with guilt and embarrassment about their bodies and their bodily functions. They learn that.
I still think regardless of the relationship you have with your parents, some still feel that they can't go to their parents for somethings for fear of disappointment like I said before and the feeling of "what will they think of me now"? I really think it is my personality and how I percieve my relationship with them, regardless of how "open" they were and still are. Your children are obviously the exception.
If she has insurance beyond suing her there isn't much recourse she has. And sure the company can always fire her it thats their policy. I don't know about pp doing that but i wouldn't trust npr to be unbiased so i am not sure i believe that story.
You sure do like to dismiss other people when they disagree with you. I heard the girl's own mother being interviewed and that is what she said.
Something made you feel embarrassed. And, my opinion is still the same -- if a parent is completely open and honest with their kid from the start, there isn't going to be any embarrassment about talking to their parents about health issues. Children aren't born with guilt and embarrassment about their bodies and their bodily functions. They learn that.
Parents are NOT supposed to be their kids' friends. They are supposed to have expectations for their kids which are communicated to said kids. Yes, kids are going to be uncomfortable talking to their parents about some things if the parents rasied them "properly". Yours had no problems talking to you about sex, but you don't know what they didn't talk to you about, b/c it didn't happen.
You sure do like to dismiss other people when they disagree with you. I heard the girl's own mother being interviewed and that is what she said.
I take anything i don't personally see myself with a grain of salt. And npr is a conservating thing...so bias is going to come into play. Did a member of pp get up there and tell their side of the tale? Did she have an issue with pp to begin with and just decided to make a story out of it? Unless you are there, you never can tell.
While we have parents who drop the ball by not talking with their kids or not seeing what's going on in front of them, I think it's a VERY good idea that these kids have another way to get birth control so they don't end up children with children.
When I was young I had a friend who's mother found her birth control and took it away from her. Does anyone think that stopped the girl from having sex??? A responsible parent imho would have made damn sure that girl heard every word there was to say about pregnancy and safety and how much her mother loves and worries about her and been placed on the best birth control method for her. Doesn't always happen.
I take anything i don't personally see myself with a grain of salt. And npr is a conservating thing...so bias is going to come into play. Did a member of pp get up there and tell their side of the tale? Did she have an issue with pp to begin with and just decided to make a story out of it? Unless you are there, you never can tell.
Not to nitpick, (well ok, to nitpick) but no, NPR is not conservative. (if that's what you meant by conservating ).
If parents do not want this type of thing happening to their children, they need to get their children out of the public school. The schools have an almost unlimited authority to teach sex ed in any way they deem appropriate. See the following link:
The above link provides court documents about a school that put on a production called "Hot, Safe & Sexy" in which a woman came and performed what many would consider a porn show to kids as young as 14 yrs. old. Parents were not notified or given a opt out and kids were required to attend and not allowed to leave. A young girl's parents took the school to court. The court ruled in favor of the public school.
Within the past year, there was a case on the west coast of a public school sending a highschool girl for an abortion during school time. Again, she was driven to the clinic off campus by a health care person who was not a school employee.
I believe the public schools are butting in where they do not belong. But I think most of us who think this way are fighting a losing battle. I think the only answer, unless you absolutely know and stay very vigilent as to who is teaching and what is going on in your school is to pull your kids out of the public school. I did that and didn't like what was going on and decided to put our kids in a small, private school, where they are more in line with my conservative thinking.
OP, perhaps you can go after the school on the grounds that they took your daughter off campus without permission. Aren't permission slips still required for "field trips?" Good luck. So sorry you and your daughter experienced this intrusion into your personal matters. BTW, do you know if your dd had already had sex before they took her for bc or did the doling out of bc encourage her to do so?
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I take anything i don't personally see myself with a grain of salt. And npr is a conservating thing...so bias is going to come into play. Did a member of pp get up there and tell their side of the tale? Did she have an issue with pp to begin with and just decided to make a story out of it? Unless you are there, you never can tell.
Don't kill the messenger. A girl died. Her mom says she would have given permission. This was several years ago, but stuck in my mind, b/c I thought PP did a sucky job with that girl. I think they could have said, "We find lots of teens say that but it turns out not to be the case. Could you bring your mom over here and we'll help you tell her?" or something similar.
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Good luck. So sorry you and your daughter experienced this intrusion into your personal matters. BTW, do you know if your dd had already had sex before they took her for bc or did the doling out of bc encourage her to do so?
