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Old 01-07-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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One can configure the computer for specific access.

To disallow kids from Internet access because of their parent's stupidity should be a crime.

Well said. "APPROPRIATE" internet usage can only be obtained with "RESPONSIBLE" parental supervision. There are many apps and programs that parents can access to "watchdog" and limit websites that are not appropriate. I have found that the parents who are restrictive in their childrens intenet usage are one's who don't fully understand computers or maybe don't have time (copout imo) or simply don't care what websites their kids are on.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Well said. "APPROPRIATE" internet usage can only be obtained with "RESPONSIBLE" parental supervision. There are many apps and programs that parents can access to "watchdog" and limit websites that are not appropriate. I have found that the parents who are restrictive in their childrens intenet usage are one's who don't fully understand computers or maybe don't have time (copout imo) or simply don't care what websites their kids are on.
Some parents are scared of the technology and rather than get familiar with it tell their kids it's too dangerous to use.

I guess they are more concerned over a soccer match and the next bake sale than become a part of the modern world and give their kids an edge.

The children of parents who don't get their children involved in the digital age are leaving their children at a severe disadvantage.

I gave almost unrestricted Internet access to my 4 kids when they were old enough to operate our computers. I also read them the riot act explaining about pornography sites, spam sites etc.. I showed them I could find out whatever sites they went to and what logs I could review from the social web sites. And how I could read their mail... I was called Hitler and secret police but it worked...

My youngest is 20, my oldest is 37 with two grandkids, a 25 year old mother (and grandchild), a 28 year old son, married And I got two more grandkids now and had a total of two instances in 25 years of them breaking my rules (which resulted in a month without the computer.

Both my sons are in the US Navy one an electronic tech (ET2), the other Master-at-Arms (MA2) my son-in-law is finishing up "C" school in Radar Electronics (ET3)

I am living proof children can have Internet access as long as the parents themselves understand the technology and put it to good use.

I helped the kids out setting up filtering rules to sort out junk mail, spam and pfishing from incoming mail. I also showed them how to view the source of the email to see if it's a scam in the making.

There is so much educational material put out on the Internet it's a shame people don't avail themselves of it.

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Old 01-08-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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The children of parents who don't get their children involved in the digital age are leaving their children at a severe disadvantage.
We could say the same about parents who don't let their children explore the outdoors,
manipulate actual objects (like Legos) instead of doing everything digitally (digital Legos),
develop social skills,
explore hands-on art,
travel in the real world and experience "real-live!" people and cultures different from them, instead of only doing so online,
learn a craft,
learn to cook,
etc.

Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends
or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.

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There is so much educational material put out in the real world it's a shame people don't avail themselves of it.
That's more like it.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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We could say the same about parents who don't let their children explore the outdoors,
manipulate actual objects (like Legos) instead of doing everything digitally (digital Legos),
develop social skills,
explore hands-on art,
travel in the real world and experience "real-live!" people and cultures different from them, instead of only doing so online,
learn a craft,
learn to cook,
etc.

Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends
or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.



That's more like it.
Not a criticism, just an observation: in this tech vs. no tech debate, it seems like there is always an assumption of "it's all one or all the other." I think everyone needs to exercise their own judgment when it comes to their own kids, but IME, most people take a middle road (i.e., have kids who can both use computers and tie their shoes in real life).
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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We could say the same about parents who don't let their children explore the outdoors,
manipulate actual objects (like Legos) instead of doing everything digitally (digital Legos),
develop social skills,
explore hands-on art,
travel in the real world and experience "real-live!" people and cultures different from them, instead of only doing so online,
learn a craft,
learn to cook,
etc.

Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends
or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.



That's more like it.
Why can't kids do both? My kids are athletes and musicians. They all know how to do things in the real world. They also know how to use technology. Life is not an all or nothing proposition.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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We could say the same about parents who don't let their children explore the outdoors,
manipulate actual objects (like Legos) instead of doing everything digitally (digital Legos),
develop social skills,
explore hands-on art,
travel in the real world and experience "real-live!" people and cultures different from them, instead of only doing so online,
learn a craft,
learn to cook,
etc.

Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends
or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.



That's more like it.
My biggest "technology" user child is also the one that played with lego's the most--heck he STILL plays with legos at 19 years old--they have a REALLY cool architectural line with famous buildings. It's pretty cool.

My daughter just changed the lightbulbs in several fixtures for me. We have entire room in our basement that is the "lego" room. "It" would be your dangler, btw.

I think you need to get out more, go visit a high school and see the amazing things these high school kids are doing these days.

My kids all know how to cook, clean, function in the real world, etc. just fine, even with having cell phones for many years .
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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We could say the same about parents who don't let their children explore the outdoors,
manipulate actual objects (like Legos) instead of doing everything digitally (digital Legos),
develop social skills,
explore hands-on art,
travel in the real world and experience "real-live!" people and cultures different from them, instead of only doing so online,
learn a craft,
learn to cook,
etc.

Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends
or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.



That's more like it.

Funny you say that about parents who don't let kids "explore" the outdoors. I live on the top of the Rocky Mountains in Montana right on the Lewis & Clark Pass Trail. Every one of my boys (along with being involved with computers and tech) have hiked the trail every summer to start conditioning for hunting season. During hunting season, I don't think our TV, computer or Nintendo ect.. are even turned on as we are out hunting. All four of my boys have grown up being able to grab a fishing pole waiting on our deck and walk 50 yards to the Blackfoot River to go fishing or rafting with their friends. You take pride in judging parents who push for Technology fluency without knowing anything about them or their parenting. You start a thread blasting technology and the internet and become defensive to those parents who post positive experiences in which kids can enjoy the best of both worlds. My boys all have Legos, more than I would like. They absolutely love tying their own flies for fishing, attend summer camps AND have unlimited resources to expand their love of these things using the internet. I will have you know that thanks to the internet and one of my sons chatting with another friend, close to 100 people showed up to help a family get enough winter firewood to cover them for a few years. This family is losing a dear, wonderful husband and father to cancer (he doesn't have but a few weeks left). My son got the word out to many more friends and something wonderful came out of it. If you don't like technology and the internet, then that is your choice, I respect that but remember, you are the one who started the thread ASKING what other parents thought. Don't proceed to condemn my parenting when I answer. One more thing, all of my boys are members of Boy Scouts. Up here, we actually have Winter Camp. I highly doubt my boys will ever be at the mercy of another person when it comes to something as simple as cooking an omelete. Not only can they change a lightbulb but they can (the older ones) get firewood, cut it to length, split it with a maul and start a first rate fire. I take great pride in the fact that I (as their MOM) have taken each son out to harvest their first buck (dad gets to take them elk hunting). Without help from anyone else or God forbid, computers, we hike up the side of a mountain, I talk him through the first shot and I have taught each and everyone of my boys how to properly gut their buck out, get it back to the truck, get it home and hung and then my husband and I both teach them how to properly process the meat. You don't get that from computers and that's okay with me. The students in our little school have the opportunity to go on a trip to a different country every other year IF they put their minds together and pay a set portion of the trip (we have an amazing English teacher). So far they have gone to France and Ireland so you see, our kids experience other cultures. Funny you mention the Periodic Table. One of the reasons my son won the Science Scholarship was because he memorized it from the poster hanging on his wall next to his bed. My mind is broad enough to know that there are no limits to anything and thank God it's broad enough not to judge other parents as much as you have judged here.

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Old 01-08-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Personally I feel that The Wonders of Technology!! are overrated.
Great that a kid can rework the periodic table via a Facebook group with his tech-savvy friends.
He probably can barely change a lightbulb or make an omelette
or build an actual model airplane or diplomatically solve problems among friends or tell you where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it.
That's more like it.
My kids could change light bulbs, cook, replace the brakes on their cars and be on soccer teams all the while they surfed the web...

Methinks you have been watching to much TV.

I think it's awesome they have a tool that whenever they are unsure about something they can almost instantaneously research and get up to the minute information on.

Again, if parents don't want to understand the world their children are growing up in they putting their children at a huge disadvantage...

One of the jobs IMO that parents should be responsible for is to educate them as to the dangers of the world they are growing up in, and that includes the good and the bad about the Internet.

As far as where a dangling modifier is in a sentence and how to correct it. LMAO...

I am more concerned about high school graduates not knowing that Singapore is a country, where Bhutan is located and one doesn't have babies for the tax deduction/welfare payments than I am about their not knowing some arcane English rule....
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