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Old 05-17-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Originally Posted by hml1976 View Post
Uh nope. I was overestimating at 150 stranger abductions a year, the real number is closer to 115. Deaths from stranger abductions number around 50 a year. Tragic yes, but very very unusual.

FAQ: Statistics

STATS: Today show revises number of missing kids downwards
My quote was wrong my apologies....I posted this in True Crime forum last week. Numbers are all over the place depending on the cite.

These stats are from NISMART...National Incidence Study of Missing, Exploited, Runaway and Throwaway Children.

Missing Children Myths | SparkAction

For instance, of those nearly 800,000 children reported missing each year, 99 percent are found through law enforcement efforts, according to FBI statistics. That still leaves 8,000 to 10,000 missing despite a prolonged search�a frightening, but certainly far more manageable, number.


About 200 to 300 children are kidnapped in the classic sense each year, according to the National Incidence Study of Missing, Exploited, Runaway and Throwaway Children (NISMART). Another 3,200 to 4,600 are taken for shorter periods, have something done to them, often a sexual assault of some type, and are then released. This number could be two to five times higher than the NISMART estimate, some believe, because of underreporting to law enforcement.

Myth #1: Young children are the most common victims of abduction and exploitation.

Actually, adolescents, especially girls, are the ones at greatest risk. The average victim of abduction and murder is an 11-year-old girl with a stable family relationship. First contact with her abductor usually occurs within a quarter-mile of her own home.

Myth #4: Teaching children to beware of strangers is the most important step we can take to keep them safe from abduction.

The vast majority of children are abused, molested or exploited by people they know, or whom they do not consider strangers. According to NCMEC statistics, even in non-family abductions, most perpetrators were not considered to be strangers by the victim.

 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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Well thank God someone's is! Better to be super careful regarding defenseless children than to be as apathetic as the others on here.

The reason so many kids are taken or even just beaten up or lost is due to not having enough of a concern!
In some cases, sure, but in all, or even most? doubtful.

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Just saw another post saying the park is two blocks from your home, most abductions are within two blocks of the home...just think about it. I'm all for independence in kids, not in a public place alone...sorry.
Well, ya, because kids are usually close to home, not wandering on the other side of town

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Old 05-17-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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My kids don't walk to school, they go to private school so I drive them. The public school kids DO however all walk to school and home together. Since its sanctioned by the public school I'm assuming it's legal.

And interesting to note that more kids are injured in cars on the way to school than kids injured who are walking to school.
Kids are getting picked up by family members everywhere by me now in public schools and where I used to live as well.

Your statement here in CA would be accurate if you went to the barrio of Los Angeles 90001 where we have schools like Miramonte where the teachers were molesting the kids.
There they have almost all of the public school children walking home themselves. Or even more often they walk to a state funded babysitter at a cost of $600 a month where they watch cable TV, get fed starchy food to make them fat and of course do no homework.

So when I see young kids walking home without someone I think they are very poor or their parents don't care.
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Well, ya, because kids are usually close to home, not wandering on the other side of town
Watch ...you might hurt yourself doing that.

DO YOU READ...The discusion isn't about a child wandering on the other side of town.

The OP thinks his child is safe bc the park is 2 blocks from his home.
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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Your statement here in CA would be accurate if you went to the barrio of Los Angeles 90001 where we have schools like Miramonte where the teachers were molesting the kids.
There they have almost all of the public school children walking home themselves. Or even more often they walk to a state funded babysitter at a cost of $600 a month where they watch cable TV, get fed starchy food to make them fat and of course do no homework.

So when I see young kids walking home without someone I think they are very poor or their parents don't care.
I live in an upper middle class neighborhood in a small town in the Pacific Northwest. Its no Beverly Hills of course...
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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Watch ...you might hurt yourself doing that.

DO YOU READ...The discusion is about a child wandering on the other side of town.

The OP thinks his child is safe bc the park is 2 blocks from his home.
2 blocks is on the other side of town?
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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The worst things that happened to me in my childhood were in the car with a parent, next door to my house with my neighbors, and at home in ways that I won't go into here.
I had a neighbor in Brooklyn jump off the bridge, my parents never left me with them.
There are bad parents and neighbors out there, doesn't mean it is safe for a 7-8 year old out there by themselves.
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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Watch ...you might hurt yourself doing that.

DO YOU READ...The discusion isn't about a child wandering on the other side of town.

The OP thinks his child is safe bc the park is 2 blocks from his home.
Hello? I know what the discussion is about. Do you think a child predator knows or cares if a child is 2 blocks from home or across town? Of course not! It happens close to home, because that's where kids hang out. It is a meaningless stat. The kid is no more likely to be kidnapped from the park than from anywhere else. The OP doesn't think the kid is safe because he's close to home. The OP thinks his kid is fairly safe because child abductions are very rare. and, ya you deserve another of these
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I live in an upper middle class neighborhood in a small town in the Pacific Northwest. Its no Beverly Hills of course...
BH now, middle class suburb earlier. Usually young kids don't walk home by themselves in either case.
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Hello? I know what the discussion is about. Do you think a child predator knows or cares if a child is 2 blocks from home or across town? Of course not! It happens close to home, because that's where kids hang out. It is a meaningless stat. The kid is no more likely to be kidnapped from the park than from anywhere else. The OP doesn't think the kid is safe because he's close to home. The OP thinks his kid is fairly safe because child abductions are very rare.
Yes...the OP stated the child is okay, its only 2 blocks from home...again...you didn't read and go off on your tangent.

The OP thinks his child is safe 2 blocks from home...I said abduction happen within 2 blocks of home....what don't you get about that??

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"Well, ya, because kids are usually close to home, not wandering on the other side of town"
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