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Old 06-28-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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Flat-out told them NO. Don't even start.

This was one non-negotiable subject in our house. They had a good, healthy fear of Mama's Wrath coming down on them like a 10-ton weight if they even THOUGHT about getting high before they were out on their own and 100% responsible for themselves.

The school had the DARE program. I had the DON'T YOU DARE program.
I believe yours it much more effective :X
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I believe yours it much more effective :X
Why do you feel this is more effective than being open and honest? My Mom told me NO also, but that didn't stop me. I think having your child relate to real life experiences is much more effective than just telling them no..
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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Flat-out told them NO. Don't even start.

This was one non-negotiable subject in our house. They had a good, healthy fear of Mama's Wrath coming down on them like a 10-ton weight if they even THOUGHT about getting high before they were out on their own and 100% responsible for themselves.

The school had the DARE program. I had the DON'T YOU DARE program.
I tend to think there's too much discussion about drugs in the schools and from far too early an age. And surprise surprise, the schools here have a big problem with drugs.

My attitude with my kids was that all they needed to know about drugs is that they would not be doing them. But also no drugs are done in my house, we don't use aspirin, tylenol, or cold medicine much less the hard stuff.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Why do you feel this is more effective than being open and honest? My Mom told me NO also, but that didn't stop me. I think having your child relate to real life experiences is much more effective than just telling them no..
I agree....and I also think that goes for ALL drugs.....imagine having a beer while you tell your son to say no to drugs....crazy, but that goes on...
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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Why do you feel this is more effective than being open and honest? My Mom told me NO also, but that didn't stop me. I think having your child relate to real life experiences is much more effective than just telling them no..
But having your child relate to your real life experiences with drugs was because you did drugs. My parents were never addicted to drugs, so they could not have related real life experiences to us, and same here - I don't have real life experiences to relate except to warn them about leaving a drink unattended or that when someone tries to get them to do drugs, not to be stupid and just do it.

If I do run across a good youtube video of someone on meth or bath salts or some weird drug, I'll usually make sure they see it so they can see that way what drugs do to someone.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:55 PM
 
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Why do you feel this is more effective than being open and honest? My Mom told me NO also, but that didn't stop me. I think having your child relate to real life experiences is much more effective than just telling them no..

Yah me too. I just got very good at hiding. Among the things my Mom knows I did, that is not one of them. If you freak about drugs in general, the first time they toke on a joint, they are going to know you are full of bull. "Drugs" have wildly varying consequences and treating them all the same is pure foolishness. But really is anything ever more effective than being open and honest?
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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But having your child relate to your real life experiences with drugs was because you did drugs. My parents were never addicted to drugs,
Here is actually a cogent tidbit of misunderstanding that is useful to point out maybe. Do you equate ever doing drugs with becoming addicted to drugs? I have not read every post, so you may be speaking directly to the experience of the person to whom you reply. I am not sure. But my parents equated any use with addiction. It does not take long for a young person to see the fallacy in that and consider the speaker ignorant on the topic.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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Why do you feel this is more effective than being open and honest? My Mom told me NO also, but that didn't stop me. I think having your child relate to real life experiences is much more effective than just telling them no..
Perhaps the dare programs is different in your area but here it's done in the 4th sometimes 5th grade usually by an off duty police officer. I have seen the packet they hand out and its full of the same cliches you get when they teach the stranger danger crap. You're right a parent saying no does not bar you from doing them. However a strong parental figure who takes a part in your life does seem to deter drug use a bit better. Of course this is not an absolute since some people do drugs regardless.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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But having your child relate to your real life experiences with drugs was because you did drugs. My parents were never addicted to drugs, so they could not have related real life experiences to us, and same here - I don't have real life experiences to relate except to warn them about leaving a drink unattended or that when someone tries to get them to do drugs, not to be stupid and just do it.

If I do run across a good youtube video of someone on meth or bath salts or some weird drug, I'll usually make sure they see it so they can see that way what drugs do to someone.
Just google 'meth mouth for them'
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Here is actually a cogent tidbit of misunderstanding that is useful to point out maybe. Do you equate ever doing drugs with becoming addicted to drugs? I have not read every post, so you may be speaking directly to the experience of the person to whom you reply. I am not sure. But my parents equated any use with addiction. It does not take long for a young person to see the fallacy in that and consider the speaker ignorant on the topic.
Pretty much -- everyone I know who uses drugs is addicted to them. And I have known a lot of drug users. Except for the rare person who does a drug once or twice to see what drugs are like and decides they didn't enjoy them enough to waste money on them. I know pot heads who cannot get out of bed without smoking some pot first, I've known people who never left their apartment for 3 weeks straight but just sat and got high.

Since to get a job, you generally must pass a drug test, anyone who risks a job or employment because they cannot give up their drugs really is addicted -- whether they admit it or not. Anyone who insists that all drugs are perfectly harmless or not as dangerous as coffee has to be addicted to them because that's not true at all -- only something someone trying very hard to justify their addiction would do.
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