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Can we not have a discussion without damning the opposition?
No. F you.
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(And I did get your point but I just don't thinks it's really applicable to the situations we're discussing - which for the most part IS harnesses and their usage. Which is generally for a very limited time and very specific circumstances. I don't recall anyone indicating they planned on walking their toddler in the park every day in the hopes that somehow self control magically appeared.)
Well I guess I have seen harness use all over the place, so spoke to that.
I personally don't mind the term leash. But some clearly used it specifically to make the canine connection. THAT is offensive.
And yes, most parents who use them have kids who are 9 -24 months.
If I didn't learn to go with the flow occasionally, I'd be a walking heart attack from the stress that occurs when *you know what goes here* happens. Because it will. I'd probably also be divorced. There are times to insist on control and times it really isn't all that important. I am much more pleasant to be around having learned that. Trust me on that. (not implying you should learn it - just me. I can get control freaky. It isn't pretty)
Using a harness a handful of times did not damage my son. He learned stuff, he's normal (-ish ), healthy, still very active, finishing up his college degree, working multiple jobs, maintaining good grades and planning a big post graduation trip. He didn't miss the lesson on self control.
Hmmm. Maybe regional? I RARELY see them outside of specific circumstances - the airport (where I seem to be a lot lately) mainly.
Oh. That repositions my thinking a little. I saw it a ton on vacation. But in my home state, not so much. Alert the media. Internet communication might have changed an opinion! Huh.
Oh. That repositions my thinking a little. I saw it a ton on vacation. But in my home state, not so much. Alert the media. Internet communication might have changed an opinion! Huh.
Hmmm. Maybe regional? I RARELY see them outside of specific circumstances - the airport (where I seem to be a lot lately) mainly.
I see them in airports, amusement parks, and that's about it. I don't know if I've ever seen one just out and about running errands or at the park. That tells me they are the exception not the rule. Like I said we don't have an epidemic of pre-teens who run off because they never learned not to.
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Originally Posted by Wmsn4Life
Yes, they have, more than one. Perhaps you just skimmed those.
Like they look like dog leashes? They don't teach kids to stay close? I've already discounted both of those.
I wish I had used a harness with my daughter. She was ADHD and it would have helped me out a lot to use one. I see nothing wrong with them. They are also extra security in crowded situations.
I'll never forget the time in Disneyland inside a gift shop when all of a sudden my hand was grabbed. I looked down at a little boy who took hold of my hand as though I was his mother and it creeped me out immediately. Gratefully his mother saw him do it, so she knew it wasn't ME who took hold of her son. She was shocked and upset, because he didn't like strangers. And I looked nothing like his mother. Very weird.
I'll never forget the time in Disneyland inside a gift shop when all of a sudden my hand was grabbed. I looked down at a little boy who took hold of my hand as though I was his mother and it creeped me out immediately. Gratefully his mother saw him do it, so she knew it wasn't ME who took hold of her son. She was shocked and upset, because he didn't like strangers. And I looked nothing like his mother. Very weird.
This happened to my husband on his first day of kindergarten. He grabbed the wrong mom's hand. He recalls that she just smiled at him, but he was mortified.
I think it's sad that you were creeped out by a little child's accidentally taking your hand.
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), healthy, still very active, finishing up his college degree, working multiple jobs, maintaining good grades and planning a big post graduation trip. He didn't miss the lesson on self control.
