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The bolded is strange to me. I have a husband who is a great dad, and a caring person. He would never describe someone else's kids the way you have here.
Sure. We're two separate people. I see your point. But I don't understand why it's taboo or unacceptable to have close family friends--both of whom appreciate each other's kids.
Because that would be immigration fraud. We have to show that we're exercising parental authority that passes the investigations.
I don't see how this would pass the sniff test in any case. What plausible reason would her parents give to want to give a 16 yer old up, other than immigration status?
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cx, I applaud you. This is how humans are supposed to treat each other, IMHO. When someone you care deeply about is about to be deported, through no fault or act of their own, their loved ones stand up and do something. It would be an awful world if everyone just drew their curtains closed and went about their business while their friends were dragged off. We've all seen THAT happen.
So, the parents are also here illegally? But the two youngest are here legally because they were born here?
I don't see how this would pass the sniff test in any case. What plausible reason would her parents give to want to give a 16 yer old up, other than immigration status?
Exactly. It's just as fraudulent as a marriage for the sole reason of providing legal status.
Exactly. It's just as fraudulent as a marriage for the sole reason of providing legal status.
You're changing your argument at each hole you see.
I work in this, it happens all the time. This isn't purely for immigration benefits (their family's financial and other difficulties) and meets all laws. I know immigration judges very well, and this is completely legal.
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I have a friend who teaches an ELL class for adults. She's been asked if she would consider caring for minor children (who were born here) if the parents were deported.
I don't think US citizens realize the constant fear undocumented people live in, and the desperate measures they will go through to remain in the US.
cx, I applaud you. This is how humans are supposed to treat each other, IMHO. When someone you care deeply about is about to be deported, through no fault or act of their own, their loved ones stand up and do something. It would be an awful world if everyone just drew their curtains closed and went about their business while their friends were dragged off. We've all seen THAT happen.
So, the parents are also here illegally? But the two youngest are here legally because they were born here?
The problem is that everyone has an opinion until it happens to someone they care about. Very few people in this country know the difficulties of these families and people. Not enough people do what they can. And, apparently, when they do, they're accused of being creepy. Go figure.
You're changing your argument at each hole you see.
I work in this, it happens all the time. This isn't purely for immigration benefits (their family's financial and other difficulties) and meets all laws. I know immigration judges very well, and this is completely legal.
How am I changing my argument? I'm addresssing things as you provide information.
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If it's "completely legal" then why does it need to pass any kind of sniff test?
Answer: to make it appear to be more than just an immigration thing. Because that would be.....?
I'm not unsympathetic to the situation if it's true and if it's accurately represented. However, I'm dubious based on the gushing in the OP as well as the statements regarding how happy this would make him. Not anything about the difficulties (other than the pesky, uncooperative wife) or the emotions and feelings of the girl or her siblings or the financial implications for his own family.
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How am I changing my argument? I'm addresssing things as you provide information.
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If it's "completely legal" hen why does it need to pass any kind of sniff test?
Answer: to make it appear to be more than just an immigration thing. Because that would be.....?
You're making a circular argument. It has to pass a sniff test because it needs to be done legally. To be done legally, we need to actually adopt her and treat her as our child for 2 years--that involves going to our zoned schools and such.
The fact that we otherwise wouldn't be doing this but for immigration benefits is not illegal as the law is written. Unlike other portions, like entering the country on an NIV with intent to immigrate (which is very illegal), this provision has no intent restrictions. It just has to be a real adoption.
You can disagree, but that's what the law is.
Earlier you suggested that she didn't need to live with us in order to adopt her and apply for benefits. That's completely false, because it would be a fake adoption. This is real.
How am I changing my argument? I'm addresssing things as you provide information.
I'm not unsympathetic to the situation if it's true and if it's accurately represented. However, I'm dubious based on the gushing in the OP as well as the statements regarding how happy this would make him. Not anything about the difficulties (other than the pesky, uncooperative wife) or the emotions and feelings of the girl or her siblings or the financial implications for his own family.
Fair point strictly from what is posted, but I cannot go through all of the different people and factors involved in this setting. We're lucky to be very financially secure, but the opinions/feelings/implications of those involved do matter--hence my post here.
I simply believe this isn't as big of a burden or deal as my wife might think, just from the obvious undertones of the word "adoption" in general. I could be wrong, which is why I'm asking.
If I didn't care and am just being selfish about it, I wouldn't be posting here at all.
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