Dad arrested, charged after beating man, 20, he found in his 14-year-old daughter's room (party, teens)
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Most Dad's would beat up or at least go crazy over an adult who was coming to meet and maybe do more to his teenage minor daughter. Let's be real. It's a simple reality check.
I completely agree with this, but my issue is, the guy does not look like an adult to me. Now if this was clearly a middle-aged man, then yeah, I definitely think most fathers would snap. But I saw a picture of the boy and to me he looked like he could have been anywhere from 15-20. Not what I would have been able to automatically discern as an "adult." A 6 year age gap is not that huge.
Again, I'm not excusing the boy for what he did. I think he has been rightfully charged. I am just shocked that the dad beat him up and shot at him when he did not really look like an "adult" IMO (again with the caveat that I have not read anything that indicates that the boy was physically assaulting the girl....if the dad came in and that was happening, then all bets are off).
Still doesn't make it right, what hope is there for a baby being raised by a child? History will just repeat itself. Leading to more dysfunctional families, ill educated people, disease and poverty.
true to that. But beating up and shooting someone is not the answer either.
i my area in Ventura County they have babies at age 15. Hispanics. Very common to have 2 children by the age of 18. Some 25 year old hispanics I am talking to sound more mature than alot of white Americans at age 40.
There's nothing "mature" about making multiple kids before you're 18. It's plain stupidity.
Maturity would be waiting until you have the financial resources to care for those children, and being a lot more discerning about choosing who the father is (which teenagers don't tend to have the capability to do).
I completely agree with this, but my issue is, the guy does not look like an adult to me. Now if this was clearly a middle-aged man, then yeah, I definitely think most fathers would snap. But I saw a picture of the boy and to me he looked like he could have been anywhere from 15-20. Not what I would have been able to automatically discern as an "adult." A 6 year age gap is not that huge.
Again, I'm not excusing the boy for what he did. I think he has been rightfully charged. I am just shocked that the dad beat him up and shot at him when he did not really look like an "adult" IMO (again with the caveat that I have not read anything that indicates that the boy was physically assaulting the girl....if the dad came in and that was happening, then all bets are off).
6 years is not that huge?
And ANY MAN ( hes not a boy, hes an adult) in my home, unannounced/uninvited, with my daughter? Hell. No.
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There's nothing "mature" about making multiple kids before you're 18. It's plain stupidity.
Maturity would be waiting until you have the financial resources to care for those children, and being a lot more discerning about choosing who the father is (which teenagers don't tend to have the capability to do).
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Most Dad's would beat up or at least go crazy over an adult who was coming to meet and maybe do more to his teenage minor daughter. Let's be real. It's a simple reality check.
The question is, did he actually know this young man was an adult? How would he know that?
The average juror would not be an expert on the law. Therefore the jury would need to be brought up to speed on the law by a court counselor thereby enabling a decision of guilty or not guilty to be made based on the law. I mean, a person's life may be at stake so there would need to be someone on hand versed in the law to guide a lawful jury decision. Or, maybe I am sadly naive.
Juries typically are finders of fact "Did X do Y". The law is up to teh judge.
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I was 15 when I had a bf who was 23. No one got beaten and I survived without damage. I was not a skank, did not turn into a skank and the 23 year old guy was a virgin. Maybe he was a bit behind in his development, but oh well.
We need some gun control. He could have killed that boy. Violence is never the answer.
Your boyfriend would have been guilty of statutory rape in many states.
Violence is sometimes the answer. Unless you want to just give up all of your belongings to the nice gentleman demanding them rather than shooting him. The father was wrong to shoot at the guy as he ran away and was no longer a threat, but anyone in your house uninvited after dark is fair game.
He was invited. By the daughter. And while we all know she can't consent to sex at 14, she CAN consent to inviting someone into her home.
Minor age children, at least those raised by parents with the brains to set and enforce rules and boundaries, don't get to make the rules about who can come into the house and when. Only ones with that say are the adults putting the roof over that kid's head.
Minor age children, at least those raised by parents with the brains to set and enforce rules and boundaries, don't get to make the rules about who can come into the house and when. Only ones with that say are the adults putting the roof over that kid's head.
It can get interesting. My first wife died when my youngest of three daughters was 16. It was a disaster.
However the house. 3000 SF with 6 bedrooms and a pool. Was a regular gathering place and the kids involved were from 16 to 23. Anything from 5 to 12.
The rules were simple. Anyone could stay. But no sharing of beds between sexes. The guys ended up in sleeping bags in the living room. Girls all over the place. The ladies enforced the rules.
No doubt that any number of these sweet young things were capable of getting laid if they chose to...but not in the house.
These were relatively worldly people. Probably half worked at the S CA amusement parks including a couple of Disney characters. Pretty much all went to the same high school or the local Cal State College.
And they all pretty much behaved.
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